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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. fchowd0311

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    I think this shows an inherent privileged bigotry that is so deep rooted you don't even realize it.

    Here's how you can discover it yourself. Ask yourself when a gop administration selects their candidates based on religious principles, are you you outraged in Clutchfans they are eliminating the best viable candidates by just looking at Christians? Or are Christians inherently better Supreme Court justices and therefore only limiting it to those people won't eliminate the "best possible most qualified candidate"?
     
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    I would also like an explanation from you on what actions, history, resume etc makes you conclude that someone like Harris is less qualified than someone like Mike Pence? Does Pence have a wide range of vocabulary? Is his experience in government and law superior? What specifically makes you uniquely concerned about Harris' competence?
     
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    "Vacation" = going home for the weekend. You sound pathetic
     
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    Regarding all of the above. Are Brown Jackson or any of the other Biden appointees unqualified? Is quality being sacrificed for representation?

    If not then doesn’t Biden have prerogative to appoint who he wants based on what he wants as long as they are qualified?

    And since you brought it up did you feel it was wrong to appoint t Amy Comey Barrett to Ginsburg seat or Clarence Thomas to Marshalls? If I recall you’re an admirer of both yet the presidents that appointed them did so specifically because of identity.
     
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    Elections have consequences. Biden can appoint who he wants and if a majority of the Senate agrees then they get seated.

    Many were opposed to Trumps appointments yet were fine with Barrett even though he specifically said her identity mattered. Trump’s himself frequently talked about having people filling key roles because of identity issues. For instance he liked General Mattis because his nickname was “Mad Dog” and he looked like what Trump thought was a general. Trump as the winner of the last election could do that.
     
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    No. Do you think a president could select for white candidates as long as they are qualified? If Trump had said, "I'm going to make sure Ruth Bader Ginsberg is replaced by a white man." and then did so, how would that go over? It is too early to tell how good KBJ will be as a justice. She was appointed by Biden, so she will probably be terrible and ignore the Constitution, but that is not because of a lack of qualifications. The qualifications to be a Supreme Court justice or federal judge are nil, it is whoever can be confirmed by the Senate.
    I'm more a fan of Thomas than ACB. Like Jackson, it is too early to tell what kind of justice ACB will be. If the president had a preference for a black justice when appointing Thomas and a female justice when appointing Barrett, that would be wrong as well, yes. I don't recall Trump saying he was limiting his search to women only, though I may just not have seen it. Thomas was appointed well before I was paying attention to such things, so I have no idea what Bush said about appointing him. I do know that when Garland and Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were appointed, neither Obama nor Trump said anything about putting a white man on the court or limiting the search to white male candidates.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    If you limit your candidates to a religious affiliation does it potentially result in not finding the most qualified candidate in existence?

    Both Thomas and Barret went through a selection filter of being openly religious and specifically Christian.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    As you note Trump did nominate white males to the court and while there was disagreements on them ideologically and in Kavanaugh’s case character wise it was recognized that Trump could appoint candidates for his own reasons.

    Also I find your argument that there are no qualifications disengenous. While yes there are no official qualifications I doubt you would consider appointing someone to the USSC who never tried or heard a case and didn’t even have a law degree as being qualified.

    largely though you’ve already provided the answer. You dislike Brown Jackson for her ideology, which you certainly can but that doesn’t change whether she is qualified or not nor that Biden can appoint her for his stated reasons.
    Yes GH Bush was looking to appoint a black justice to replace the first black Justice. Trump did say he wanted a woman to replace Ginsburg. I’m on my phone but will find the quotes from him later.

    So does this mean that in your minds those appointments were tainted?
     
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    None of the reasons for appointing them would be considered illegal in government hiring. Hiring based on skin color would be. Yes or no, did Obama say he was appointing Garland because he was a white man? Did he say he was limiting his search to white men? Did Trump say he was appointing Gorsuch or Kavanaugh because they were white men? Did he say he was limiting his search to white men? These are simple questions that should be easy to answer.
    It isn't disingenuous at all. There are no minimum qualifications to be a Supreme Court Justice. I would rather have a non-lawyer with fidelity to the Constitution than at least four of our current justices, including the Chief Justice.
    Anyone nominated is qualified. The President can nominate whoever he wants. I can say it is racist to pick someone on the basis of skin color.
    Yes, they were tainted.
    Yes. There should be no religious test in government appointments.
     
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    We really need to limit non contributing members from posting a day
    It’s like stray dogs at the local shelter that think they are getting adopted
     
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    Ok if you believe every appointment is essentially tainted because the President chose then on the basis of identity then I’ll give you credit for consistency.
     
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    You know Greg price has a team of 13 people according to politico that literally just edits and clips videos.

    RNC research has a team of 72 people that scans biden cabinet videos all day and clips and edits them. Imagine if yall spent that time on building a party.



    Reality



    You people are such losers seriously. You folks have lost 3 straight elections and they just keep getting crazier.
     
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    Biden does say and do dumb and creepy stuff at times. He also gets a lot of legislation passed too. I think he likes it when his opponents are focussing on the former.
     
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    Yeah Americans really do have high morals after they elected a guy who said it was okay to sexually assault women
     
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    congratulations for being a supporting member capitalist
    i can't call you a communist now
     
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    No Nlrb in history use to sue corporations to reinstate employees from union busting like bidens NLRB. The democrat party needs to go back to being pro worker and pivot away from the global elites like with Clinton and obama.

    Trumps nlrb use to proactively union busting. @Kim elections matter
     
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    Please stop @ me. I already said I would vote for Biden over Trump. There's nothing wrong with implementing good policy (good for your guy); however, you can still faily criticize the actions of his growing administrative state as arguably federal government overreach or even unconstitutional. I'm not saying this here is an unconstitutional action, but others have been. You seem like more of a results person than a process person - apologies if I'm incorrect there. I care about both, mainly the latter, which leads to me criticizing both parties at times and praising both parties at times. I'm not trying to create false equavalency here since there are few legit Republicans remaining as most are performative hacks. Just, please stop. I don't hate Biden. I like him more than Trump. I still think he's old. No biggie. I don't want to block you because you post good info. @ people is annoying...and I like Tinman, but it's annoying.
     
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    Biden might be a white boy, but he is not stupid.
     

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