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[2022 NBA Draft/1-3] Jabari Smith Jr., F, Auburn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 23, 2022.

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Do you like the selection of Jabari Smith?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    He's just a super cocky kid that knows the organization only cares about draft position so he's safe to do whatever he wants to do with no consequences. He fully believes he's the best player on the team despite the fact he's literally the worst.

    That kind of attitude could end up having him follow in his cousin Kwame's footsteps.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Flashes of an elite player? I'm glad you finally came around to Green.

    Because Paolo is having a worse rookie year than Green.
     
  3. highpost1388

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    I need KPJ to come back so people can go back to blaming him for everything. KPJ is our 2nd best player, but at least he's had some years in the league to make the (often unnecessary) criticism a little more reasonable. Jabari is a teenager lol. I've definitely seen flashes of why we drafted him and like someone else already said, not every prospect comes in playing like a hall of famer. I'm willing to be patient with him like every other young guy on the roster.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Lol, once again you turn everything into a Jalen Green defense it's amazing!

    Anyway like i have told you many times i was all aboard the Green train last year. I actually think Paolo is better, as he'll be runaway ROY but whatever, if you want to ding him for his poor shooting and say Green was better that's fine. I'd rather have Paolo because a 6-9 250 lb Point Forward creates more mismatches than a volume SG.

    However, the fact that Green has shown basically zero net progress from last year - and actively regressed from the end of the season, is the root of the problem.... But not the root of the problem with Jabari Smith Jr
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Not overall he's not, even with Jalen Green's fluke hot streak to end the season.

    I'm guessing you are basing that solely on TS% while ignoring everything else. So the accurate statement would be "Thanks to the post ASG hot streak, that turned out to be fool's gold, Jalen Green finished as a slightly more efficient scorer than Banchero"

    Now when you consider the entire game on both sides of the court, Jalen's rookie season is WAY behind Banchero's....even with the fluke hot streak.
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    Why would you want a taller player?

    Oh because they tend to be more efficient?

    Jalen Green is a scrawny 6'5" dude who has better 2pt fg% than Paolo.

    Paolo has regressed in a season. Usually young rookies get better in their rookie season as the season progresses.

    Green has definitely improved in multiple areas but we've been on this back and forth for months now and I doubt it's going to change anyone's minds with one more back and forth.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Alpi at 20 is better than Paolo at 20, and it's not even close.

    Ah yes, and of course Alpi at 20 is infinitely better than Jabari at 19. And than Jalen at 20.
     
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    Oh ok, the Rockets should offer to trade him for Paolo then
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    .....and he's one of the most embarrassingly poor defenders in the entire league that makes him a MASSIVE net negative while on the court.

    I know he's your guy, but until he gets a LOT better, you REALLY don't want to be picking these kinds of battles. Jalen is still the second worst player on the worst team in the league.
     
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    So I can hold on to the Casio? :)
     
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  11. highpost1388

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    I'm just imagining us watching Jabari shoot 3% from 3 for a month and still talking about how he's not only better than every other rookie, but also better than a guy who drops 30 and 40 every now and again lol.
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    Rockets would say no.


    What you and many NBA fans are a victim of is reputation fog. This happens a lot more on the defensive end then offense (Kobe is a an example). Reputation fog is when a player builds an initial reputation by starting off really good at something like defense and then declining on that aspect but causal fans still think they are elite defenders. It's how Kobe got many of his all defensive team awards.

    Paolo had a great start. Scoring 20+ on like 59% ts. I mean dude was looking like the next Durant in the first couple of months in terms of production out of a 19 year old scoring wise.

    That initial impression now is sticking.


    The reality is Green has always been a higher prospect than Paolo and nothing about their NBA play so far suggests otherwise. There was a initial 2 month window where it looked like Paolo would be better.

    And Paulo will probably get rookie of the year this year but that shows that this draft class is weaker than 2021 draft class.
     
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  13. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, no they wouldn't, Jalen Green is absolutely terrible overall and not everyone is one of his apologists like you are.

    If you could get Banchero for Green, ANY team would do it in a heartbeat.
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    The only person Alpi is "infinitely better than" here is Jabari.
     
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    Since I couldn‘t watch many games this season - how would our perception of him change, if he could get his percentages up - let‘s say 38% from 3 and 48% overall? Is he showing us enough other stuff (defense, rebounding…)? Or has he been a disappointment across the board?
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    He occasionally shows the highlight block. He flashes some quickness at the perimeter in terms of defense but still gets beat a lot where I still don't consider a competent switch defender yet. And like everyone else in the roster his defensive awareness suffers and is often out of position. But there a coaching issue.

    If his shooting magically improved he would still have deep concerns with his ability to self create as still the vast majority of his makes would be open spot up threes and for a 3rd pick overall you are hoping for a bit more self creation talent.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    If not for Jabari, Jalen would be the worst performing player on the team. Those two still are down by themselves at the bottom. One is embarrassingly bad at offense, the other is embarrassingly bad at defense.

    Sengun is seemingly "infinitely" better than either of those two scrubs.....again, pick your battles better. You're just objectively wrong here.

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    We'd be thinking of him COMPLETELY different if his offense wasn't such an abomination. He's had his struggles defensively, but he's also had flashes of brilliance there. If he was hitting 38% from 3, he'd go from being the worst player on the team to one of the best.
     
  20. cml750

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    That headhsot graph speaks volumes.
     

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