I know sometimes I can be excessive with this stuff. I’m a fan of this team regardless of who stays or goes. Some of these guys I argue with would leave this forum if we trade Sengun. They’re okay with slander of any other player bc they don’t care about the rockets
my english failed me to understand this sentence. I have no idea what the 'a toy' means. I am not a rocket fan. I am a contributor here because Sengun plays here and I like his game and I like talking about basketball. I am not pretending to be a fan.
Yes. Same with most elite ball handling wings and guards. Lebron needs floor spacers. Harden does. Giannis definitely does. Tatum does.
Why does that necessitate Green taking bad shots so much? He could let Sengun create offense and play offball more, but he decided to take the bad shots.
Without EG now we have exactly 0 guys who are threat from 3. Teams should be daring us to shoot and clogging the paint. That's what I'd do against us.
Bro. There is a theoretical limit to the amount a non ball handling big who's entire game is post up within 8 feet of the rim in the modern NBA gets possessions run through them. Especially in a packed paint. NBA defenses will front and easily take those options away. NBA big men are strong as hell. Guys like Jokic are Texas sized targets for their guards to just throw the ball in their general vicinity and yank the ball away and get in position. Green can't get good looks and has to self create because we don't have any veteran guards that can run pg and run an offense. Green came into the league as an off guard and is being forced to do a LaMelo.
Defenses still will guard guys like Green. They don't defend the 3 pt percentage. They defend knowing the fact Green is extremely streaking and a couple of open clean looks can make him start putting up 4 3s in quick concession. To a smaller extent same with Jabari. NBA defenses know that Jabari is capable of getting hot and making a few in a row.
I don't think Jalen is an elite ball handling wing. He is much more efficient when he plays without the ball in his hands. In fact, I got an interesting stat on that, one sec: this is as of mid January btw: for this year: - 2.6% of Jalen's shots come on 0 or 1 dribble: he has a 54.4 EFG on those shots - 67.4% on 2 or more dribbles: he has a 44.0 EFG - 25.5% of his shots are on 7+ dribbles: 43.3 EFG last year: - 42.9% of his shots came on 0-1 dribbles: 57.1 EFG - 57.1% came from 2+ dribbles: 46.9 EFG -17.7% on 7+ dribbles: 43.5 EFG So, instead of playing him against his strengths and constructing a roster based on using him in a way he is bad at, why not use Sengun as a shot creator and use Jalen off ball in a way he is actually better at anyway.
Sure Jalen Green needs to get more easy looks and that will help his efficiency. But at the same time he has a talent that needs to be honest where it can be extremely prolific for us when he's 23-25 years of age and that's his dribble seperation ability. Green is a player right now who collapses defenses very often due to his dribble seperation ability. This creates open players. He just has to get better at finding the open players he generates. He's getting slowly better at that given his ast rate increase and his increase in things like pnr efficiency.
Eh, I think you're limiting the possibilities of Sengun because of having a too ingrained and not plastic enough idea of basketball offense. To paraphrase the great Elinor Ostrom, "if it works in practice, it works in theory" -- and the Sengun offense has worked better. You say it has its limits, well, why not push it until we see what the limits are. That seems smarter than utilizing an offensive approach that has been doing worse than running things through Sengun just because it works better in theory.
But he's awful at dribble penetration and creating offense off the dribble. Again, I know people want him to be this great scoring wing. That's why the Rockets drafted him. But we haven't seen anything that indicates that is what he is. When we try to play him like that, it is a disaster of inefficiency. If that is what he ends up being used as in his career, he's going to be a bench player in the NBA. If people want him to actually be great and be an efficient top 10 scorer, he needs to be an off ball player.
Why does he always have to be inefficient? He's inconsistent. He's not capable. There is a difference that you refuse to acknowledge.
Is he not inefficient? Yes, he's very inconsistent -- but in the aggregate he is also inefficient. I mean, I don't want to be the "facts don't care about your feelings" guy, haha, but, dude is inefficient as a ball handling wing.
I was actually thinking about when Jalen has the ball in his hands because we were talking about the spacing for him. My bad on not clarifying that. I agree they'll go out there with him and KPJ when he's back.
There you go with your assumptions again. I’m fairly certain it’s obvious to anyone who has observed our conversations who is the one getting twisted. I’m here having fun while you continue to lash out like you usually do. It’s really quite hilarious! There you go trying to be snide about paragraphs again. Like I said before, the fact that you think that took effort or time speaks more about you than what you believe speaks about me.
Actually @AlperenSengun is one of the most level-headed Sengun fans here, unlike some Rockets fans who has gone off the rail when it comes to talking about their boy.
I am rooting for the rockets right now. I would love to see them succeed and follow the journey from the start of the rebuild. That's why I wish a coach whose philosophy Iike comes to the rockets. Edit: So, I follow teams or players that I enjoy watching. Sengun has been a jackpot. I like his game and he happens to be turkish and likable so he gets some special attention.
