Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

I really don't understand any woman voting republican unless you just don't give a **** about anything other than themselves.

 

The female GOP voter in a nutshell.

 

The Dobbs decision is really looking like what happens when the dog catches the car.

 

Painful and cruel.




LAKELAND, Fla. — Deborah Dorbert is devoting the final days before her baby’s birth to planning the details of the infant’s death.

She and her husband will swaddle the newborn in a warm blanket, show their love and weep hello even as they say goodbye. They have decided to have the fragile body cremated and are looking into ways of memorializing their second-born child.


Deborah and Lee Dorbert say the most painful decision of their lives was not honored by the physicians they trust. Even though medical experts expect their baby to survive only 20 minutes to a couple of hours, the Dorberts say their doctors told them that because of the new legislation, they could not terminate the pregnancy.

Ever since the condition was identified more than 75 years ago by Edith Potter, a pioneering perinatal specialist, Potter syndrome has been considered a doubly lethal diagnosis. Without working kidneys, newborns are unable to rid their bodies of deadly toxins and go into renal failure. Without amniotic fluid in the womb, they are born unable to breathe.


Babies with Potter syndrome often die before they are born when their umbilical cords become trapped between their bodies and the wall of their mother’s uterus. Those that survive the birth process typically suffocate within minutes or a matter of hours.


The couple said they decided on preterm induction as soon as possible out of concern for Deborah’s physical and mental health, worries about the baby suffering, and their desire to begin the grieving process.

 

…b****es be crazy.

 

Dystopian story. SMDH. Florida's government should pay permanent PTSD costs to this woman after she has to live through her new baby suffocating to death. I hope the family sues for mental anguish.

 

demons walk among us

 

Shut the **** up dude.

 

There’s a common denominator regarding people that keep failing and can’t understand why reality never conforms to the way you think it should play out

women vote republican (despite roe overturning being a disgrace) because modern femenism as it is espoused in the west really does screw a lot of women as a trade off for virtue signaling. Notice, how’s its always a soyboy liberal thay always uses these videos to make fun of these women. It’s always these soyboys that try to dictate their lives when they complain about being uncomfortable with showing their vags around penises

 

Care to comment on the state of Florida forcing a family to carry a non-viable pregnancy to term, causing undue anguish to the parents in the process, instead of allowing the medically-agreed-upon treatment of abortion?

 

She shouldn't have to, but I don't know why she wouldn't fly to a state where she can get an abortion. I'd take a lot of trouble and expense to avoid the situation she is now in. Maybe too far along by the time she got the diagnosis?

 

I'd like to understand more about the timing of the diagnosis as well.

 

Lol i don't know if Hasan would classify as a 'soyboy' I don't think he has any issues with women outside of maybe being too promiscuous like going to playboy parties and other various similar events and seems to workout. Like he would be the actual opposite of the term 'soyboy'.

 

It's in the article (paywall).

It was at 23 weeks when the ultrasound found the fetal diagnosis. She was later admitted to the hospital to run additional tests and ultrasounds, which confirmed the finding. Another ultrasound was conducted a week later, at the 24th week, with a different specialist to reconfirm the diagnosis. It was at this point that she decided to terminate the pregnancy, recalling the doctor saying it might be possible between 28-32 weeks.

"During an appointment in early January [this should be between 28-32 weeks], Deborah said her obstetrician, after consulting other experts, told her that she had also concluded that termination at this stage would not be possible. The doctor pointed out that states like California and New York have fewer restrictions.

The Dorberts say they wondered briefly about traveling, but they have left Florida only a handful of times since Kaiden was born and were daunted by the costs. Deborah had stopped working at Publix after Kaiden was born, and Lee, 35, is only recently reemployed after losing his job during the pandemic. They felt uncertain about finding new doctors to terminate an already traumatic pregnancy. And they worry about potential legal repercussions."​

The Florida law has a fatal fetal abnormalities exception to the 15-week ban, but the definition is not crystal clear. As has been pointed out numerous times, while these exceptions exist throughout the country, doctors and hospitals, under fear of prosecution, will err on the side of protecting themselves. This is a direct result of overturning Roe given current laws on the book before overturning Roe and new laws that are expected after overturning Roe. You will see more and more of these cases where doctors and hospitals take the safe route.

Deborah didn’t pay much attention to the laws when they were enacted, never believing she would want an abortion. But that has changed.

“It makes me angry, for politicians to decide what’s best for my health,” she said. “We would do anything to have this baby.”

They have resolved to wait in Lakeland, still confused by the law that is determining her care.

“We have never really understood,” Lee Dorbert said. “We were told there was an exception,” he said, recalling conversations with their doctors. “Obviously not enough of an exception in some cases.”

The Florida law does not clearly explain how viability should be interpreted.

Kelli Stargel, a former Republican state senator and longtime Lakeland resident who was one of the bill’s key sponsors, said the law was written to permit abortions when there is no chance of survival.

“If the baby has a fatal fetal abnormality and cannot survive outside the womb, it can be terminated at any point in the pregnancy,” Stargel said. “It was my intention not to require a woman to maintain a pregnancy when doctors agree the baby is not viable.”

But, she said, if medical professionals and lawyers disagree, that will be decided in the court system.​

 

Thanks. Not second-guessing the parents, because I get how practical concerns can end up wagging the dog. I'd have chosen differently, maybe because I come from a place of more privilege.

Interesting quote from Kelli Stargel that speaks to the naivety that Republicans can fall victim to, trusting that just because they made a provision to allow a necessary abortion that the industry would auto-magically show up to provide it.

 

This article has more details:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...rtion-ban-unviable-pregnancy-potter-syndrome/

Issue was first identified at 23 weeks then confirmed with a third ultrasound at 24 weeks.

Doctor said that termination could be possible between 28 and 32 weeks, but when she actually tried to schedule a preterm induction, the coordinator at the maternal fetal medicine office told Deborarh that she has to wait until 37 weeks because of how 'legal/administration look at the new law and the way it's written'.

 

it appears the law was written to allow for this, and you have overly-cautious doctors..or perhaps someone is using this poor family to make a statement.

in the event, it's an edge case, and should soon get sorted out by the courts.