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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

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  1. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Authoritarianism, lack of commitment to liberty, insufficient compliance with the Constitution, corruption, refusal to eliminate most taxation, imposition of restrictions based on personal beliefs, out of control spending. This is not a complete list.
    I would suggest that the quoted policy recommendations are not for the purpose of creating suffering, but rather to reduce government spending and to reduce the all-to-common practice of taking money from some Americans and giving it to others. Suffering may be a consequence, but I suspect it is not the motivation.
     
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    If reducing the government is the point WHY DON'T REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS EVER DO THIS?!? I asked you last time the same question.

    Who was the last republican president to balance the budget for a year?

    Answer.

    The gop WANT the suffering so they can vote republican for the presidential election. You're so damn naive or you're a troll. Grow up man
     
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    The administration is dead set on reaching some sort of arrangement with Iran. If some version of the old JCPOA is not on the menu, then Washington seems willing to consider recognition of threshold status with no deal. Nothing stands in the way of America’s willingness to accommodate Iran’s nuclear desires, not the protests in Iran, not Ukraine, not the plots to assassinate American officials at home.

    Waiting on the US to see the light on the Iran deal and shift toward military options is an exercise in futility; a fantasy that neither Israel nor the spectators in the Gulf have the luxury to entertain.
     
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    You're spewing gulf propaganda who hates Iran and always spin this garbage. That news site is straight up disinformation

    You're just stooping to lower and lower levels. Now you're spewing arab conspiracies.
     
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    President Trump withdrew the United States from the JCPOA and stated his intention to negotiate a "better" deal. Of course, he did break it but didn't replace it with anything. What we are seeing now was exactly what was expected after Trump's decision to break the deal.

    Top Israeli Security Experts Agree — Withdrawing from the JCPOA Nuclear Agreement Has Been a Total Failure
    https://jstreet.org/top-israeli-sec...-jcpoa-has-been-a-total-failure/#.Y_KGsB_MJbA
     
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    If only there was a way that would have stopped Iran from moving forward with its nuclear program? Oh wait, there was a nuclear deal abandoned by Drump.
     
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    Damnit Brandon why did you make Trump abandon the JCPOA and not negotiate a better deal like he said he would?
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The guy proposed reducing the government and you said he was advocating suffering for the sake of suffering. Why do you think they are hesitant to make cuts to the budget?
    You can have smaller government without balancing the budget. You can have a balanced budget without reducing the size of government. They are related but not identical. The bad part is that most Republicans don't even make a real attempt at reducing the size of government. That's why I included out of control spending in my partial list of what is wrong with Republicans.
    The GOP want votes, just like the Democrats. A politician's #1 goal is election. That is why they spend so much of their time fundraising. The Democrats chase votes by telling the voters that they will get free stuff if only the people who pay almost all the taxes could be forced to pay more taxes. The Republicans chase votes by telling the voters that they will get to keep more of their stuff and be protected from people trying to take it (be that the government or the criminals) if only the Democrats weren't standing in the way of it with their high taxes and social programs. Whoever gets into power does nothing about any of these big fundamental differences, they nibble around the edges (like with student loan forebearance by the democrats or small tax cuts by the Republicans), because they 1) can't get big things passed around a filibuster, and 2) are afraid of losing the next election if they vote for what their base wants and turn off the independants.
     
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    On the same page here you posted a tweet claiming that the US was just going to let Iran go nuclear and would do anything to accomodate a deal with Iran. So now it's the US is going to have a joint operation with Israel against Iran?
     
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    If biden can secure a deal in Israel long term + ukraine wins he'll go down in history as one of the most important foreign policy presidents in us history.

    Hes washing up bush awful legacy of war crimes and has almost ended Obama drone wars while fighting democracy against Russia.

    He has no idea what he's even posting half the time. He sees any anti biden stuff and he just rushes to it like a kid. It's kinda sad.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    LOL. What should we have done?
     
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    @basso @tinman




    Illegal migrants are not coming after you. You can relax.
     
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    @StupidMoniker

    Biden made a huge speech about junk fees and made it a huge talking point at his SOTU. Look what happens days after



    Government is GOOD when it tries to be good. Pressuring corporations into more fair and transparent rules is very GOOD.
     
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    Seems pretty meaningless to me. Why would I care if people sit next to their rugrats on airplanes without paying extra? How does that help me? Also, how is it the federal government's business what airlines charge people to choose their seats. No, government meddling in private transactions isn't good. I don't think this is the regulation of interstate commerce that was intended by the drafters of the Constitution (and in fact I am quite certain it is not).
     
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    All policy should be about you specifically?
     
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    You do acklowledge it is our duty to respect native american treaties right? Biden first president in history to actually invest in native American land...
     
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    This is basically the backbone of GOP policy.

    If I personally like it it’s good for everyone. If I personally have a problem with it it’s bad for everyone.
     
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  20. StupidMoniker

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    No. I was specifically tagged in the post and told this was government doing good, so I responded with my perspective on it. If I said, @leroy look at these tax cuts, finally the government is doing something right and linked a tweet about tax cuts, I would expect you to respond with your perspective on the tax cuts, if you were so inclined. I won't ever actually do that, but it is a good illustration of my point.
    Sure, to the extent that the treaty is still valid (hasn't been breached by either side, hasn't been superseded by a successive agreement, etc.). I can't find a treaty between the United States and the Rappahannock (though they appear to have engaged with the English at some point, see Pocahontas). I am reasonably certain there was never a treaty to have them co-manage land with the parks department. The idea that there is some Native American ancestral knowledge to care for land sustainably is something HuffPo wasn't pulling from the text of any treaty, if I were to hazard a guess. Given all that, I don't know what treaty obligations have to do with the tweet you posted, other than being about Native Americans.
     

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