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Would you call what Stone and the Org are doing, tanking?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Feb 18, 2023.

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Has Stone set this team up to tank this year

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wait, they aren't? And he didn't?

    DD
     
  2. Nook

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    Stone is completely devoid of nuance at all.

    First, when he discusses his plan he acts like it is special or groundbreaking when it isn’t. It has been done numerous times.

    What is upsetting is that he lacks in depth to what he is doing. He discusses trying to speed up the young players he drafted by playing them a lot. Well, he and his coach didn’t play all of them a lot and he held onto and gave Gordon big minutes.

    However, what is more distressing is that he is oblivious to the fact that the culture he has helped craft and the poor performance of his head coach has only r****ded the development of his young players and its hard to quantify what long term impact that will have on the young players.

    his plan has a lot of holes. He isn’t going to be able to sign elite players regardless of his cap space and he isn’t going to be able magically change the poor culture and lack of accountability he has pushed for over two seasons.

    The lack of detail and innovation is really telling.
     
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  3. SamsonCorletwo

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    I really don't care what Stone say is or what Tilman Cheap Fertitta family to do
    I just believe in Vitus,he is the really big deal in this organization
     
  4. Spacemoth

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    Everything on the team is broken because no one can hit wide open shots with any degree of consistency. Not a single one. Until that fixes itself we’re looking an unprecedented three years in a row with the worst record in the league. Even teams that tanked in the past weren’t as catastrophically effective as us in that regard. And meanwhile the draft picks we have accumulated are seeing permanent hits to their potential career trajectories as a result. If you were a top prospect would you want to come into this situation?
     
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  5. kjayp

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    its like the man cant multi-task...

    yes, its about tanking and acquiring high potential talent through the draft...

    but u can rebuild this putrid culture at the same time - hell, its the best time to do it - bc u dont care about wins... u can do things on principle - like bench high draft pix for not getting back on d, etc... set the standards now - and hopefully they will matter down the road...

    idk what were doin on the trade market... we shoulda been taking some swings...

    we're gonna hit the off season with all this cap to spend... arent gonna be a draw... and are going to overspend on Ryan Anderson 2.0...
     
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  6. DatRocketFan

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    Fews years from now when another team is planning to tank, anti tank folks will use this stone regime as another example on why it doesn't work.

    No vets, a rookie coach, a guard trying to learn pg to control the offense for his teammates, a gm who is meddling into players rotations, and shtty team culture. Folks like to point out that Stone "whiff" on Smith and Green but I find it to b unfair to judge these two who were put in such a shtty situation to begin with.
     
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    Brooklyn Bridges
     
  8. hakeem94

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    stone is good he sold himself to yall very well...and for good!
    100% of you here believe the original tanking fallacy
    the higher the pick the better!!

    and all the mess just stems from this fallacy
    lololol
    and this is an absurd belief!!!
    it cant be dumber than that...cause the drafter order is as arbitrary as it gets plus the players quality is always fluctuating...always, even in the old age, and it cant be set in stone at the age of 18,19 , 20 JUST CANT

    its only a belief an unfounded one and all you alleged analytical minded scientific nerds just bought it and swallowed it like a middleaged Catholics ate whatever the holy Papas in the rome, vatican or wherever been telling them lololol

    shame on you nerds! DUMBALYTICS
     
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  10. Easy

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    I'm sure Jabari not able to hit shots and Jalen being Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde was part of the Plan.
     
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    You "were told"?

    By this guy?
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Is Silas in on it, or is this just Stone controlling the roster with kids so Silas has no choice?

    And if Silas is in on it, he won't be fired....

    DD
     
  13. Aruba77

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    lol. Pray for Victor. Sounds like a wise rebuild plan.
     
  14. daywalker02

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    It's a master plan of a con artist to sweep mistakes under the rug of 'Oh yeah, we knew that and that was part of our plan as well.'

    The later potential plan of signing over the hill stars and overrated players.
     
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    Stone is a NBA 2k GM, ****ing joke. He wanted to bring in vets in the mid-season since everybody said we lacked them, but for building cancer culture, he did nobody wants to play here anymore. Tilman needs to stop ****ing around, bring in ex-rockets-legends that are respected and let them run this ****, not some yes-man
     
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    It has become such a disastrous concoction of question marks.. I think one thing for sure.

    They don't fire him because he lost his parent but who knows what's next.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Silas has made comments in the media about D. Ryan's new contract being 6 years and him having time to go through the rebuild....and the org having faith in him to see it through.

    DD
     
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    Is there a D. Ryan in basketball, please enlighten here.
     
  19. Deuce

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    This is such a key component. Now, maybe a new HC can turn that around. But we might not know for a while how damaging this "non-development" season has been.

    The "tank" part of the plan is going fine.
    The "development" part of the plan is NOT going fine.

    BOTH matter.
     
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    Stone doesn't seem like a bright guy. He laughs off accusations, but it's because he doesn't understand them. Smart, but not an experienced guy, would have at least think them through and out work everybody. His work is not visible and non-impactful. Anybody and their granny can build team to loose, then try to act like it's a plan... problem is you just can't turn it around in one summer unless there are some agreements we are not aware of
     

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