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[2022 NBA Draft/1-3] Jabari Smith Jr., F, Auburn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 23, 2022.

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Do you like the selection of Jabari Smith?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. kingkingston

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  2. SamFisher

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    Is it? Really?

    It says :

    Very Good Shooter

    Very Good Athlete​

    ...among other things.

    These are the two areas where he's been much worse than i expected and why I scratch my head over how he was ever considered a #1 overall prospect which is what that Scouting report says

    He has not been a very good shooter and appears to have middling at best athleticism in terms of running and jumping. He doesn't seem to have explosiveness to finish underneath consistently.

    I still don't get how these things went unnoticed.
     
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    Other than (duh) taking more right corner 3s, he's been ass from pretty much everywhere.

    http://nbashotcharts.com/zoned?id=615512345

    I guess the left elbow jumper is -ok- but Sengun is usually taking those spots when he's in.
     
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    I already posted a shot chart from a different site so I don’t need to look at whatever u just sent me
     
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    Proclaiming it in interviews about that brings bad PR to the franchise.

    I don't care if he runs plays or not but he shouldn't say it out loud.

    Unhinged behavior, leads me to think Silas has an agreement not to be fired until offseason.
     
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    I think sometimes scouts who watch Collegeball too much tend to compare Jabari to college athletes and not athletic NBA players.

    I do think that might be the case here.

    He is pretty tall so dunking does seem effortless.

    He is a decent prospect who got elevated to the highest of heights.
     
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    Jabari's biggest athletic strength is his lateral mobility which is elite. It's why even the most prolific offensive players have issues getting around him and even when they do he can recover and bother or block the shot. There were various videos showcasing this. His linear athleticism is fine, nothing crazy like Jalen or KJ but better than Garuba or Sengun.
     
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    I'm a bit confused on Jabari competing the skills challenge. Is that going to show off his strengths?
     
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    I haven't seen it in NBA games.

    Nope. Sengun has more blocks per minute (even though that one is close), significantly more dunks, more rebounds. I haven't seen Jabari have more "linear athleticism" than Sengun.

    Jabari has a very low defensive stance, people just shoot over him. When they get around him, I haven't seen him recover well. He doesn't seem very good at fighting through screens.

    One positive thing I would say is that the effort seems to almost always be there on defense, that is quite different from let's say Jalen or Nix.
     
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    Gonna show off that elite lateral mobility.
     
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  11. Easy

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    I think they just get the top 3 picks of last year's draft. If Chet wasn't injured, he'd be there. Ivey is the next in line.
     
  12. MystikArkitect

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    Happens when you don't detail.
     
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    OK let's go into detail.

    Supposedly his single best defensive game was the one against Giannis.



    He played very solid defense against Giannis, ripping the ball from him once and blocking him once, and generally staying very close to him.

    However, when he got beat, he never recovered. Good examples of that are at the 20 second mark and at 1:05 minutes.

    I watched pretty much every Rockets game this year, and I just don't see it.

    He has a great defensive stance and stays low and "locked in" and bothers people with his long arms, but once he is beaten, I haven't seen him recover.

    The one who is actually great at recovering and still getting a hand on the ball is Tari, not Bari.
     
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    Y’all underrate Jabari passing, he’s our best entry passer (to Sengun) He makes better decisions on break than every one but Sengun

    The biggest issue I see is wing 3s he takes way too many of them and it’s out of his range but when you have Sengun on 1 baseline and KMJ or Tate in opposite corner he gets stuck out on wing

    He’s improved dribbling, driving and finishing around rim and through contact - but most folks won’t admit that because he’s shooting so badly from 3

    Majority of those folks also won’t comment when another player goes 4-12 on all layups but cry about Bari or Green
     
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    Yes, that's encouraging.

    Also, he is 19 and has a shitty coach.

    Would be way too soon to give up on him.
     
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    Oh, sweet Jesus, I just noticed Jabari Smith being in the Skills Challenge. And we thought Jalen Green's dunk competition was a horrific joke last year.

    My fear is that when Jabari competes, I'll be wincing and looking away, like during a movie (Milk) or TV show (Watchmen) with a gay-male sex scene: Oh no, don't want to see that. I hope these comments come back to haunt me, where, if he actually does well, it'll be like watching a lesbian sex scene: Pause, re-wind, watch again. Re-wind, watch again....
     
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    Jabari, Ivey and Banchero hold the flag up high for them rookie class.
     
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    People do comment on Tari's inability to make layups. But he is still a fan favorite. I guess it has something to do with expectations.
     
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    Tari hustles. Always. People love that.

    Contrast that with Nix, who is fat, out of shape, has terrible body language and facial expressions, and doesn't even hustle.
     
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    "Very athletic, skilled forward that has a solid set of all-round skills. He can score the basketball in a variety of ways".
    "very good shooter"
    "solid scorer off the dribble"
    "adequate playmaker"
    "at worst, a very good 2nd or 3rd option on a contending team "

    Oh boy, not sure what your definition of spot-on is.
     

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