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FBI announces investigation into Harris County jail system after 32 inmates die

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  1. Reeko

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    The FBI has opened an investigation into allegations of federal rights violations following the deaths of two inmates at the Harris County Jail in Texas after a request by the sheriff's office.

    "These investigations will be fair, thorough, and impartial, and will proceed independently of any state investigations involving incidents at the jail. To preserve the integrity and capabilities of the investigations, no details of the ongoing process will be publicly shared," FBI Houston said in a statement Monday.

    Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez had reached out to the FBI to investigate the deaths of Jaquaree Simmons who died in February 2021 and Jacoby Pillow who died in January 2023, while they were in the custody of the Harris County Jail.

    "Last week, I reached out to James Smith, special agent in charge of the FBI's Houston Field Office, to have his agents review the circumstances surrounding two men's deaths in our jail because I want our community to fully trust our commitment to transparency and full accountability," Gonzalez said in a statement. "I look forward to learning the FBI's findings, because we must all know the full truth if we are to improve our operation and make the jail as safe as possible for everyone entrusted into our care."

    The announcement also came after a Houston press conference with attorneys Ben Crump and Paul Grinke Monday afternoon requesting the Department of Justice open an investigation.

    "It's appalling that you would have 32 detainees (die) in the Harris County Jail in a 14-month period," Crump said during the press conference. "I mean, nobody would really believe it unless you have these bodies that showed you it was really happening."

    According to the county records, 21 inmates died in custody in 2021, and according to attorneys, last year, at least 28 inmates lost their lives in Harris County Jail.

    The press release continues that the total number of deaths in 2023 is "at least four."

    Pillow, 31, was arrested for trespassing, a misdemeanor, on New Year's Day. He was in the process of being released from Harris County Jail on a $100 bond early the next day but had an altercation with officers, resulting in additional charges. The release also said that officials used force to restrain Pillow and that he was evaluated and returned to his cell.

    Pillow was found unresponsive in his cell on Jan. 3 and later pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

    "We have credible reason to believe that Jacoby Pillow died from compression asphyxia from being restrained, similar to George Floyd," Grinke said during Monday's press conference. "We have also credible reasons to believe that there will be evidence that he was beaten multiple times by correctional officers."

    While the family has asked for autopsy results and more information on his death, the jail said his death is currently under a "pending investigation."

    Pillow's younger sister, Ariana Pillow, is a former employee of Harris County and accounted for her experience relating to the situation during the press conference.

    "Being a former employee in Harris County working for pretrial (services), I've literally witnessed correctional staff mistreat detainees because they were in need of insulin for diabetes or other medical issues, and I've literally witnessed them being the reason for altercations taking place between them and detainees, and it's not fair, and it's not right," Ariana Pillow said between tears.

    Crump is representing the families of Pillow and other families of those who have died in the jail: Gary and Kevin Smith Jr., an uncle and nephew who died in jail last month, and Kristan Nicole Smith, who died last May.

    Crump is not publicly representing the family of Simmons, the other subject of the FBI's investigation.

    Simmons, 23, was arrested and put in jail on Feb. 10, 2021, and died of blunt-force head trauma seven days later on Feb. 17, 2021, according to his custodial death report.

    The sheriff's office completed 73 interviews, but none of the 1,490 cameras inside the jail captured video evidence of the confrontation leading to Simmons' death, KMBC reported.

    Court documents showed the Morales caused Simmons' death by dropping him on his head, kneeing him in the head, striking his head against the door and striking his head against the wall. Morales is the first detention officer to be charged with the death of an incarcerated man in Harris County.

    His death led to the Harris County Jail conducting an internal investigation resulting in the termination of 11 detention officers and a suspension of six last May. One of the involved officers, Eric Morales, was charged with manslaughter earlier this month.

    Senior Deputy Thomas Gilliland of the Harris County Sheriff's Office issued a response to the charges on Feb. 6.

    "The Houston Police Department conducted a separate criminal investigation into the events surrounding Simmons' death. The Harris County District Attorney's Office recently presented the results of the HPD investigation to a grand jury, which issued an indictment against Eric Morales, a former detention officer, alleging he committed the crime of manslaughter. Morales was among the 11 employees fired as a result of the Sheriff's Office internal investigation," the statement said.

    https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/fbi-a...ris-county-jail-amid-inmate/story?id=97190774

     
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    Harris county got some problems breh
     
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    you know how to not get killed in jail?

    Not go to jail in the first place
     
  4. Mr.Scarface

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    WOW, you are an *******. Go suck DeSantis and Trump’s scrotums; Closer still, Mattress Mack’s. I guess the Sheriff’s department is judge, Jury, and, executioner now.
     
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    Jacoby Pillow was in jail for misdemeanor trespassing. He was bonding out on a 100 dollar personal bond when he "allegedly" assaulted a detention officer. You know how else not to die at the hands of cops? Don't be black. Don't be black and drive a car, walk down a sidewalk, wear a hodie, legally carry a weapon in your car, resist or don't resist a cop, speak to a cop, sit in your apartment watching TV only to be shot by a cop thinking it is her apartment. This list goes on but it boils down to don't be black. Do a reverse Rachel Dolezal, BREH! You ****ing POS.
     
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    In all seriousness, you need to look in the mirror and get some help. I hope this is just your internet persona and not reflective of you in real life.
     
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    People here should go check out the Harris county jail system for themselves

    Let us know if they serve vegan food and stream Disney plus
    @Salvy
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    How could u type such a thing? U want to mock somebody’s death? U think it’s funny?

    very shameful post
     
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    Who am I mocking ? It’s just basic rule of citizenship
    People should avoid going to jail anywhere

    It’s just advice that’s logical
     
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    he was in jail on $100 bond…shows how serious what he did was

    this is really disgusting from u
     
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    I am agreeing with you that the county jail is bad

    the philosophy won’t change that going to jail and doing any crime is worth it
     
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    a man was killed after being in jail for something so serious that it required a whopping $100 bond, and your reply to me is to essentially blame the victim because “the best way to not get killed in jail is to not be there in the 1st place”

    Are u serious right now? Is this a joke to u?
     
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    That’s your interpretation
    Yes it’s bad if he was in jail for a misdemeanor

    how’s avoiding a bad situation not good advice ?
     
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    that’s exactly what u said…

    U know what’s worse? An officer killing him

    gtfoh with your victim blaming bullsh*t…I can’t believe u right now

    Is this really who u are?
     
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    Your title said 32 people died not just one

    I didn’t blame the victim or victims

    also the only outrage here is for people in jail and never the victims of real crime

    i can flip it on you too since nobody really cares about victims of crime here

    the cartel murdered a mother and her child in California
    No outrage from Clutchfans
    @ROXRAN

    but saying staying out of jail is good advice since it’s a dangerous place

    victim blaming , how dare you etc

    I’m not saying you are doing it , but if you think I’m insensitive than I can say that about everybody here

    You aren’t insensitive and you are right
    The Harris county system is bad
     
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    It's one thing to say, 'whelp jail is a dangerous place to be!' when you get shivved by a fellow inmate. Totally different when you get beaten by the guards themselves. They have a duty of care toward the inmates. On the one hand, I'm glad we're asking the FBI to come investigate. On the other, it's a bad sign that we apparently don't have the wherewithal locally to correct our own problems.

    Crime happens and it sucks. People suffer. But when crimes are committed by government employees at government facilities within a representative democracy, that's like it's us committing that crime. Outrage is appropriate when the government you elect hires people to represent you and do the people's business, and they violate their oaths to commit crimes in your name! Sure, I don't like it when a Mexican drug cartel murders someone. But nobody thinks that's me doing that. When the Harris County Jail murders someone, that's me doing that. I have some power to do something about it by holding elected representatives accountable for their operations. That's what this thread is about. Go ahead and name and shame the cartels but it's not going to help (though I do suggest you starve the beast by not indulging in illegal narcotics).
     
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    Is Jacoby not a victim of a real crime? The officer is getting charged with manslaughter.

    Why are u saying that people don’t care about victims of crime? Based on what? There are thousands of crimes committed daily. Does a thread need to be made about each one and the D&D becomes crime watchers?

    u steered the discussion away from the victims of the cartel murder to a blame game about the border, so that’s what that thread ultimately became about…and the poll is asking if the cartel is real with poll options talking about She-Hulk and Scooby Doo…Was that even a serious thread to begin with?

    I made this thread because it involves Harris County and it’s a systemic issue that was deemed serious enough for the FBI to get involved
     
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    Had to go into incognito mode to see who you were replying to. I should've guessed! He's got zero empathy for other people and posts the most inane bullshit. It's like somebody programmed an early 2000s chat bot to regurgitate a suburban uncle's emails. Won't somebody think of the poor victim of crime (a piece of land a man was accused of misdemeanor trespassing on)??

    32 inmate deaths is a problem and indicative of something systemic.
     
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    Harris county needs change
    I agree with you
     
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    This thread is bringing attention to Harris county
    So if the 5 people who reside there from the d&d can spark change then make sure they remember who to vote out

    thanks to @Reeko
     

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