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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. hakeem94

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    he is almost there, all that he needs is the right usage and a coach that is at least not holding him back if he is not willing to help
     
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    Sengun sucked last game. It's alright though just hope it's not a reoccurring trend

    Not much else to look forward to.
     
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    Lol some people here claimed seriously that tate is the best playmaker on Rockets lololol
    @JW86
    @snowconeman22





    Anyone can play PG on Rockets, even Daishen Nix, just not Aperen Sengun. Gotta be by Adam Silver design.
     
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    Its very interesting now to follow Mikal Bridges situation on Brooklyn, is he gonna break out now that he is in a new situation where there is no clear alpha and there is more shots available? Always loved his game!
    Also wouldnt mind if Sengun for Mikal trade happens!
     
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    when was the last time jalen green dunked in a game? LOL OTH almost anything sengun does is a highlight!
     
  8. snowconeman22

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    Tate is great. You full of hate

    Siding with roosh, as things go swoosh ... right over your head homie

    Alp had a bad game or 2 .

    Tate isn't jacking up 20 shots a game . He moves the ball quickly . Sometimes he makes bad passes .

    Still our best player .

    Sengun is happy to play with tate and have Tate be his PG because Tate will set him up.

    We have bigger ball IQ problems with green , kmj , and Jabari.
     
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    Offensive on off rating implies that Green is a far more helpful player on offense than Tate.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Very true, Green is certainly better for the offense than Tate....now do defense.

    Now do overall.

    That's not a thing you really want to cite as the chief Jalen Green apologist, it's something you kind of need to outright ignore.
     
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    Green is the least of our problems on offense. He's the third highest offensive rated player who is in the rotation barely behind KMJ.
     
  12. snowconeman22

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    I'll talk stats with you after the season if you want . But I'm not sure ANY Stat can accurately reflect how shitty we are and how good/ bad any of our players are .

    Tate has been in and out with injury this year anyways .

    I'm a huge fan of his , but I can admit he hasn't had the best season.

    Still, in the games he's played he's done more to positively impact the game on both sides than any other player on our team ( save sengun on offense at times )

    For all of the youth and inexperienced defenses KPJ and green get while learning to play guard .. can't Tate get some of that cushion ? He's older but he's played 3 different positions in 3 different years for us .

    Kpj has had 3 years to learn the point . I wanna see Tate get a couple of months before everyone says it's impossible.

    I like talking with you man because at least you use your words and don't just post tweets
     
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    I'm sorry but the numbers just speak otherwise. There is a massive difference in offensive rating between Green and Tate.
     
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    In October tate had a 118 offensive rating and green had a 97

    In January tate had a 104 offensive rating and green had a 105

    In Feb (6 games.green , 7 games tate ) tate has a 96 and green has a 109

    This is your massive and clear difference
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    So what are their season averages? How many games did Tate play in January?

    You can't ignore a difference between 110 and 104.


    That's the average for the season. The way you framed it is disingenuous.
     
  16. HardenReturns

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    OK guys.
    Sengun's the franchise player and you're arguing about who gets second place.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    Im not debating about head hanchos. No one on this team is. We have a couple of guys who have the ability of they develop right who can be franchise players(plural).


    If someone is going to say Tate is more beneficial to this offense than Green, show me besides your perception.
     
  18. HardenReturns

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    Who gives a ****? This is an Alpi thread.
    All others are irrelevant.
     
  19. snowconeman22

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    Well if you remember my initial post I said I wanted to wait till end of the year yo have more data

    But I reported straight facts and you're the one trying to spin it .
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Nah
     

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