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Is SGA the difference in the 0kc vs Houston rebuild?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Feb 15, 2023.

  1. Pringles09

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    Even if you take away SGA would you take any young player on this team over Giddey or the potential of Chet?
     
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  2. Reeko

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    SGA, Presti, coach Daigneault…good development from Giddey and rookies like Jalen Williams

    no one that can hold Shai’s jockstrap, blockhead Stone, coach Silas…every young player for themselves in basketball’s version of Lord of the Flies
     
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  3. YOLO

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    Okc’s rebuild started in 2019.

    Houston’s rebuild started in 2021 when they got jalen green

    his timeline is bias obviously to his narrative he’s trying to push. Dumb tweet
     
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  4. DrNuegebauer

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    No.

    OKCs rebuild started back in 2004/5.
    They scored Durant (then Westbrook then Harden) and had a contending team

    They tore that contending team down over a few million bucks (preferring to pay Ibaka over Harden).
    Cashing in the assets from that first rebuild saw them get first George, and flipped to SGA.

    There is a massive difference because Houston was a contender who sacrificed picks to duck the tax, then threw in all the chips on Westbrook.
    We are 20ish years behind OKC in the rebuild stakes, simply because we still OWE assets from a period of attempting to contend (on the cheap)
     
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    OKC went and hired renowned shooting coach Chip Engelland from the Spurs last summer

    it’s not a coincidence that Giddey’s jumper has noticeably improved

    Jalen Williams is developing nicely, and I’m sure that Chip will get his jumper to a nice level

    Who is the Rockets shooting coach? Do they even have one? Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Lucas, they already got him doing damn near everything. He’s the head babysitter, team psychiatrist…hell, he’s probably the team cook and flies the planes too
     
  6. YOLO

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    No for the purposes of this topic their rebuild started when they got sga and picks. They had all the intention of pg13/westbrick being the core. Then p13 decided to leave westbrick’s sorry ass then okc found a sucker in tilman to give him more picks and cp3.
     
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    No. Precisely because of the reason you mention, the rebuilds are NOT in the same place
     
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    Goodness gracious.

    If only we were so close to OKC's rebuild.

    I really don't understand how reality hasn't set in for some on Clutchfans yet.
     
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    I didn’t need you to repeat that. I already said it in my original post
     
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    I’d rather have Chet than any of the prospects we currently have on our roster, including Sengun. and I think SGA is a top 30 player.

    so right now they have 2 young players better than anyone we have. Add to that the upside of JWilliams and all their picks? The future is much brighter in OKC than Houston
     
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    Thunder got SGA and a bunch of picks
    Pelicans got Ingram, Ball, Hart & a bunch of picks
    Nets got Bridges, Johnson & some picks
    Jazz got Ochai Agbaji, Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Leandro Bolmaro, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt & a bunch of picks

    Rockets got … Tari Eason and (so far) two pick swaps that didn’t materialize. (“Just wait until 24/25/26/27!” Blah blah blah)
     
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    The difference is one organization cares about quality and culture and the other does not.

    I didnt get it at first when kmart sr wanted his boy moved away from here, but i completely understand now.

    He was closer and could see all of the bs.
     
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  13. JayGoogle

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    Lots of delusional posters.

    Now, I too thought the Rockets would be better than they are but only slightly so. I thought they would be 4th or 5th worst team.

    I never thought "Gee, this team could make the play in!" I mean sure, if Bari or Green turned out to be generational prospects that perform like all-stars in their first 3 years, but that's clearly not the case and both will need time to develop into all-stars if they ever do.

    People want the rebuild to be over when it's really just starting.

    Maybe if we get lucky and get Wemby and if he turns out to be the generational player people think he is and an instant all-star it turns around.

    Funny thing this is what most of yall wanted. The pro-tank sentiment post-harden trade around here was VERY VERY strong.

    Now 2 seasons in some of yall want out, not how it works.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    They have better players across the board.

    None of the Rockets starters would start for OKC - even Sengun due to defense.

    Everything the Rockets have, they have a better, more versatile version of.
     
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    SGA is a 24 year old in his 5th year in the NBA.

    He’s also benefited from playing with several all star level talents while he was younger and hasn’t been the focal point of an offense as a rookie or sophomore player.

    So yes an Uber talented player hitting his prime makes all the difference in the world for OKCs rebuild vs Houston.
     
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    Next year is so important for the Rockets it's not even funny.
     
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    NO,Slias makes the difference in the OKC vs Houston rebuild
     
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  18. DrNuegebauer

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    You said something different...

    Unrelated question: why do you antagonise when you post? Does it bring you joy to have uncivil discussions? I imagine for others it comes across as insecurity and finding argumentation to hide behind.
    But what would I know?
     
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  19. YOLO

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    I didn’t say anything different. I said okc’s rebuild started earlier and provided when it started. It’s pretty simple and clearly states the rebuilds didn’t start at the same time. You quoted and started talking about kd in okc when it doesn’t have anything to do with this topic

    good question . Keep asking yourself that
     
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  20. riko

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    I’ll take Josh Giddy and SGA over chucker Green everyday of the week. SGA is a winner who comes up big in wining time and his game has substance. Giddy is a damn good playmaker with high basketball IQ and skill.
    Those two have the makings of a wining foundation.

    Then you have a very good future frontline of the Williams who both can play and possibly a shot blocking machine in Chet.
     
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