Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

He's trolling right?

 

Or getting senile.

If folks didn't know him, could have called him being a bit racist for confusing Booker and Donovan Mitchell

I account it to having his head stuck in Head honcho's ass too long, the fumes is messing up his thought process

 

True. DD can be annoying and senile but at least he ain't some conservative racist nut job.

 

Incorrect as per basketball reference splits.

He gets close but there was no full month over 60% ts%. If you try to do a weight average he comes up short on both ppg and ts%.

He also did that while playing a schedule with almost half the teams tanking...

But hey, 6 weeks erases 4 months right?

 

He would have still been in the nba if he could.

 

Hah...lol - ooops.....right....Booker - Utah, Mitchell Cleveland.....DOH !

DD

 

I'm not in favor of arbitrary numbers. What would you suggest I do with someone who will only deal with arbitrary numbers?

I've already used full seasons and you rejected the information as irrelevant because of various excuses.

So I guess you can just deal with it.

I'll just have to mock you more. Price I pay for taking you seriously...

 

Do your math...

6 /15 with 9FTA?

On average he takes 43% of his shots from 3. He makes 33.1% of those...

15x.43x.33= 2.1 made 3s
15x.57x.47= 4.0 made 2s
9 free throws x .787 = 7.1 made free throws

Rounding off that would be about 21 points.

Now let's say 3 of the 9 attempts were and ones (being generous). Then that 21 points on 19 possessions.

That's a rate 110 points per 100 possessions which is the same as Charlotte, the worst offense in the nba.

If you assume only 1 and one attempt then thats 21 points on 20 attempts for 105 points per 100.

It's rough math... he could have fouls on 3s... don't feel I need to spend 30 minutes finding his free throw data somewhere.

You get the point... 6 for 15 and 9 free throws gets him to below average offense from the equivalent of hitting .210 in baseball.

 

I said he has had nights scoring 25 pts on 6/15.

That would be a 62% ts on 9 fta.


I'm not saying that's his average game. Again, you have basic reading comprehension issues. I said Green has the ability to have games where he's still efficient on poor fg% unlike Jabari because of his ability to get to the line. If Green did that every game he would be an all-star in his second year which isn't something anyone here was predicting. But that doesn't mean he's not capable of that unlike Jabari.


So again, to reiterate my point, Green has the ability like in the Sixers game to shoot poorly from the floor and still be somewhat efficient because he can get to the line and again that's proven by the fact he is only behind Sengun amongst frps in ftr and by far has the biggest lead amongst guards(big men usually have higher ftr)

 

Ah yes, the Corey Brewer argument again...

He did something once, he rarely does it, let's just assume he can do that every night someday because he did it before..

Makes sense.. lol...

How about you deal with a typical performance and not outliars in extremely small sample sizes????

 

He does it once? He's second behind Sengun in the entire draft class including all bigs in the first round in ftr.


Maybe I'm making too many assumptions. You do know what 'ftr' is right?

 

BTW, 25 points in that scenario is a longshot. Best case, he hits 6 3s and doesn't miss a free-throw and it's only 27 points.

20-22 is most likely output which isn't 62% number you pull out of thin air...

 

If we land a pick below the top two, we should offer Green plus the pick to move up to #1. Which probably still wouldn't be enough.

 

Still missing the point. Green again, being one of the best players in the draft class in ftr and even ahead of explosive tanks like Anthony Edwards of the previous draft class where you'd expect someone like that to draw fouls more often.


That means he has the ability to have inefficient shooting nights while still having relatively efficient scoring nights.

 

That means nothing. You're comparing him to less than 10% of the league.

You need to stop chopping up data as favorably as you can.

You are saying Green stinks when you have to alter the data 5 ways to make it look good. Anyone can see through it.

Age, draft class, position, etc. matter some, but you're making them the only thing that matters.

He stinks. He has flashes of brilliance. He needs to improve. He's not worthless, he's just a huge work in progress especially on the defensive end that you have decided is completely irrelevant since you never mention.

Honestly I think it's incredibly stupid to worry only about scoring. You're admitting defeat in all other aspects.

 

You need to stop saying he sucks but is good for a young player.

It's a dumb argument.

 

we should offer green, jabari, sengun, this years pick, all the nets picks and pray they accept

 

You dismiss arguments by saying matter of fact statements like "alter data" without any explanation or nuance.

I'm going to compare his ability to get to the line with players his age because getting to the line is a trait that NBA players get much better at as they get older with more experience through adding strength and learning the tricks that get the call. Green is getting to the line a lot for his age without doing any of those tricks and embellishments which he will learn to pick up with added experience.


At the end of the day all this b****ing from you started from you saying that Green and Jabari had equally bad games against the Sixers because they both shot poorly and me responding that Green got to the line 17 times something Jabari is not capable of because of his current scoring profile and ability and you turned it into some absurd strawman claiming that I said he averages 17 fts a game.

 

Explain again why it's ok to miss a lot of shots if you get to the free throw line a slightly above average frequency where you shoot league average?

It's funny watching you twist in pretzels.

 

You stating matter of fact statements without reasoning and explanation with nuance is something I'm assuming is the max ability of your rhetorical skills so I shouldn't be frustrated with this.