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The rebuilding might be tougher than we expected

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DeBeards, Feb 15, 2023.

  1. Nook

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    I have heard different versions and honestly never really specifically asked why Mobley's people felt the Rockets were dysfunctional. I am sure Porter, and an inexperienced front office and head coach played a part.
     
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    I thought Green and Booker are the same dimensions? Booker is just older and has more mass? Green is a more physically gifted player than Booker. He's quicker and is more of a above the rim finisher than Booker at the same age.
     
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    Green right now is like a faster Zach Lavine with a significantly worse jumper

    they have the same body type
     
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  4. Nook

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    Booker is a couple inches taller, and a lot wider and heavier than Jalen Green.

    Booker was about 25 lbs. heavier than Green at the same age.

    Anthony Edwards was about 40 lbs. heavier than Green at the same age.

    Yes, I agree that Green is a better athlete than Booker and while they have similar stats at the same age, their actual physical attributes and style of play are different. They are similar in terms of actual production through the first two seasons.

    Booker isn't a great defender either, but teams in the playoffs don't hunt him down in one on one situations like they do smaller players or in some cases slower players.

    As a result it is a lot easier to pair someone like Scoot Henderson or Chris Paul with someone the size of Booker or Edwards, than someone the size of Green.

    It can be largely neutralized by putting a strong and long defender at the guard spot next to Green, but that is fairly rare.

    Think of it like this........ if the Rockets get the #2 pick, the clear cut second best player is Scoot Henderson....... and he is an awesome fit offensively next to Green. However, defensively, even though Henderson is solid, it will be an issue....... because Henderson is only 6'2", it could cause real issues defensively.
     
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  5. DaDakota

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    It is just the way of the NBA, teams trade their developing guys for proven guys, then some trade for them back like the Lakers just did.....

    Hell look at all the talent the Lakers traded away - Russel, Kuzma, Ingram......

    DD
     
  6. Nook

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    Green is a more fluid athlete than LaVine, and seems to understand the game better at the same age.

    LaVine is in reality a couple inches taller than Green, but doesn't move his feet as well side to side.

    LaVine also has like a 7'0" wingspan.
     
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    I'd be disappointed if Green turns into just Lavine type. Lavine is another one of those players that is able to put up scoring numbers individually but doesn't impact winning at a high level on the larger scale. Lavine improved individually as a player offensively but his career as gone on the path of just going through the season with empty stats
     
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  8. Reeko

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    Source that his wingspan is 7 ft?

    I am seeing that they both have a similar wingspan, and they both came into the league barely 180 lbs
     
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    it was always 1 of his more likely outcomes tho…a range from Lavine to Booker level depending on development, and gravy if he ends up better than that
     
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    I don't see Booker as being couple of inches taller. Is Green like 6'2"?
     
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    Lavine is a couple of inches taller?
     
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    On the topic of rebuilding....

     
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    He's definitely taller than that. If Green's 6'2 then Ja Morant's about 5'11 lol.
     
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    I'd much rather him be closer to Booker. Just before they got cp3, he started to figure it out and translated his numbers to actual wins for the Suns. then with cp3, the trend continued upwards. Hopefully jalen's trajectory is similar. It may or may not be but I would choose the Booker path over Lavine anyday
     
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    Booker is 6'5" at most. Ya I don't see Green being 6'3". With the last couple of games against the Kings, Green looked considerably longer than Fox and a giant compared to Mitchell.
     
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    there was a time when people were saying Green is 6’6…he’s probably around 6’4, but guys like Booker and Lavine aren’t that much taller than him and they all have similar level wingspans give or take an inch or so

    I compare his body type most to Lavine because he came into the league looking malnourished like Green

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    Booker was already over 200 lbs when drafted
     
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    Split the difference. He's probably around 6'5" now. That's what he looks like on the court. Maybe the pony tail is throwing me off.
     
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    we’d all take Booker for sure…I’m just saying, a Lavine level outcome has always been a high probability as well

    I hope Green puts in major work over the summer with reliable trainers because at this point, he can’t rely on the organization or coaching staff to aid in his development…he’s gonna have to get it on his own

    it’s every man for himself out there when it comes to young players in this franchise…either u rise above all the surrounding fckery, or u drown
     
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    The Lakers got impatient once they had LeBron in their sights (probably a year or two before they signed him). Imagine LeBron with some combination of D. Russell, Kuzman, Ingram, Randle, KCP, Lonzo, Caruso, Zubac, Hart, Nance, etc. Or add AD and take out Ingram, Lonzo, and Hart. That's an awful lot of supporting talent they squandered.

    When you're rebuilding, especially a full-on rebuild like the Rockets decided to undertake, patience is probably the second most important component (after high draft picks). Coaching can be changed later, but impatience can sink the entire thing, like it did with the Lakers.
     

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