Look, it may be. But it shouldn't be. In the last two drafts, we've had two top 3 picks and two top 20 picks. This offseason, there's a decent chance we have another top 3 pick and another top 20 pick. We also have a ton of cap space, and at the end of the day, money talks. We also should hire a new head coach, which could make a major difference if handled correctly. In short, if we're not better next year, there's a decent chance we won't be good for a long, long time because of the OKC trade.
Lol when did the NBa become a league where you can only aquire players if it's a destination place? Players have no choice with trades. Look at the Magic roster. They have 5 guys in their rotation with 4 or more years of experience. We have zero. Tate has 3 years. You think this roster assembly is routine? It absolutely isn't. I've never seen a NBA roster this devoid of players with 3 or more years of experience. Can you find me one in league history?
This is why I said DRAFTING DOESN'T WORK in the modern rebuilding strategy, because unless you draft a DUDE you are stuck trying to find one in another way. It is why teams are giving up draft picks they are literally worthless with most of them going to 19 year old AAU players who may or may not be able to play in the NBA at all. The draft is broken, tanking is a failed strategy UNLESS you get lucky like ZION, or JA etc.... We didn't draft well, instead of Mobley and Murray we took two 19 year old kids who may not ever be as good as the two I just mentioned.....they might, but if you are going to go that route you DAMNED well better have a POA to develop them....which we seem to be lacking as well. Just a cluster **** all around as an organization. DD
Nope. Pretty much all the young promising teams people are hyping for the future like the Magic or OKC are built through the draft. All their core pieces are through the draft and none of them were "THE ONE" a la Luka or LeBron right out the gate. Let's look at other young teams like the Cavs. Mitchel came through a trade but there other two core pieces in Mobley and Garland drafted. Let's look at the Suns. Booker and Ayton drafted. Let's look at the Kings. Fox drafted. Sabonis acquired through Halliburton who also is a promising up and coming future superstar more than likely. It's just Fox and Halliburton become redundant. Wolves? Core pieces in Towns and Edwards through the draft. Neither were Lebron or Luka level coming into the league. You just spew shut out of your ass.
In a time when people want immediate gratification anything that takes years of incremental improvement is going to be met with impatience. They are young and far from finished products but Green, Porter, Sengun, Smith, and Eason have each provided varying amounts of ability to be rotation players on a good team. Polishing up their games and smoothing out the rough edges is now on the agenda. If we still appear directionless at this time next season then I think you start to wonder what drastic steps with the roster are necessary to right the ship.
Your head is so far up Green's chimney that you can't see the smoke. He might be a dude, but he isn't one yet, and the Org's plan seems to be just play him, and that isn't exactly moving the needle much either.... The only hope we have now instead of having an NBA ready player in Mobley is hoping Green gets a lot lot better. DD
It feels that way for sure. However we survived Yao fans, Mac fans, Lin fans [a pestilence if ever there was one, although Sengun fans are taking cues from them], even Motiejunas fans for some reason. Winning cures all. Perhaps someday I won't even hate Tilman Fertitta.
Pretty much all the young promising teams people are hyping for the future like the Magic or OKC are built through the draft. All their core pieces are through the draft and none of them were "THE ONE" a la Luka or LeBron right out the gate. Let's look at other young teams like the Cavs. Mitchel came through a trade but there other two core pieces in Mobley and Garland drafted. Let's look at the Suns. Booker and Ayton drafted. Let's look at the Kings. Fox drafted. Sabonis acquired through Halliburton who also is a promising up and coming future superstar more than likely. It's just Fox and Halliburton become redundant. Wolves? Core pieces in Towns and Edwards through the draft. Neither were Lebron or Luka level coming into the league. Mobley would look closer to what Jabari Smith looks like on this roster than what Mobley looks like now on the Cavs roster. You actually create posts about stupid hypotheticals like trading LaMelo for Green. You purposefully create posts to create a situation that people will say negative things about Green. It's like those people who hate trans people and when they encounter one specifically form sentences that use pronouns more often to purposefully trigger them. It's sad. The self awareness that you lack here is disturbing.
Who is OKC's best player? Did they draft him? SGA is the answer and No they did not draft him the Clippers did. The Cavs have tons of players acquired who is their best player? Donovan Mitchell - drafted by Utah The Kings as you said got Sabonis - I mean we can go on and on..... The draft as a MAIN and currently ONLY strategy is dead and doesn't work unless you get really lucky or are super patient, in the case of Fox he was drafted 6 years ago - so if we have to wait on Jabari and Green for 4 and 5 more years it is more likely they are doing it on another team. DD
I'm sure the Clippers are happy they don't have SGA on their team. The Cavs were a rising team from last season. Mitchell was the final piece. This also shows you misrepresenting my claim. No one said that we can't supplement star vets when the young guys are ready to win. But at the end of the day Cavs have long term plans for Garland and Mobley and they will be part of whatever success the Cavs experience in the next decade more than likely. You trade away Green who showed more promise than rookie SGA with the Clippers, you'll end up being the Clippers with over the hill aging vets middling competing for play in spots and watching guys you drafted becoming superstars on other teams.
I hope you're right brother. Some of the brightest basketball minds were/are housed here and was a big reason why I lurked for years before joining. I always felt like I was learning. Now its just a bad version of Lord of the Flies both on the court and in our sanctuary.
This is a wild take bro. Mobley has played well since the minute he touched the ball in CLE. He's had some moments where he slowed down, but he was NBA ready and has proven it.
I'm sure we would say a lot about that with Jabari. Having someone like Allen help you out and having guys like Garland feeding you easy buckets helps a lot.
Yup way too many folks on here assume Mobley just gets everything spoon fed to him. He doesn't. he was extremely talented coming in and continues to show it. Even in lineups without Allen and mitchell missing games, he thrives.
He has an even lower unassisted fgm rate than Jabari. That was actually surprising when I looked it up because Jabari hardly creates his own shots. Ya the vast majority of his offense is spoon fed to him.
nope. that's just you trying to tell yourself that especially coming from someone who clearly doesn't watch his games
I get it, people don't want to admit even still that Mobley was the better pick than Green. So set that part aside. For the sake of argument we'll say Green will be Michael Jordan soon and be better than any player in history. So now it's not about who was better between the two. Mobley has been great for the Cavs and it has nothing to do with being fed easy buckets or playing with Allen. He was NBA ready. He's elite on defense, elite instincts and feel for the game. Should make your arguments without trying to write off what he's done.
