Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Is there a player you think is better than Green?

Lmao....

So if I find someone with a lower ts% than Green it doesn't matter if they are doubles a lot, right?

Because every reason above would apply to other players too, right?

And don't think I didn't notice you avoid defense, passing, rebounding, etc.

I'm sorry but you're all over the place... one minute ts% matters and another it doesn't. Then points per game matter and then they don't if it's an older player.

Crazy thought, maybe if Cam Thomas was on the Rockets getting the shots Green gets he would average 25 as a 20 year old...

So using you logic there are a lot of better players than Green that have worse numbers... but then you have to use a different number...

But don't look at anything that isn't scoring... can't do that, it's not fair to Green...

 

I'm extremely disappointed with Green. He's regressed. There's nothing good about KPJ. He's absolutely worthless. Nobody wanted him. Name another player who quits at halftime. He's Pippen and Cato all wrapped in to one worthless loser

 

No that’s not correct he just rewrote the same equation. Like writing x + x versus 2x. They both evaluate to the same thing.

I am curious what point he’s trying to make so I sent the author a message on twitter, hopefully he responds. I find this stuff really interesting and enjoy challenging my own assumptions.

 

So now it doesn't matter if Green misses shots because he's taking stupid shots that are hard to hit....

More excuses...

Ask yourself why does Green take a hard shot instead of finding an open teammate?

Maybe then he would get nearly 10 assists like Giddey, right?

 

Of course, Jalen should just pass it to noted long range snipers like all zero players we have who shoot above league average from 3.

 

Maybe more looks would help?

 

And most frequent regurgitators of flawed opinion.

 

Another example of flawed logic...

Jalen Green 3rd highest scoring 20 year old (doubt it since 2 came since 2018 alone)..
KAT turned 21 in November of 2016. Jalen turned 21 in February 2023.

The season they each turned 21, KAT was like 3-4 more points. He doesn't show up because he was born about 3 months earlier in the nba calendar.

So it's an arbitrary standard and chosen to maximize how Jalen looks.

Notice it's not 2nd NBA season or 3rd professional season, it's age 20..

He's 21 now. I guess we need to check 21 year olds now huh?

 

Look at that. Simple search...

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/mo...James has the most,player, with 29.3 per game.

This is when we get it only counts if they are a guard and play in the modern nba... have to narrow more to move him up on the list...

 

Jalen Green fanboys explaining his stats:

 

He may respond to that who really knows. He is incomplete as of now and not showing any signs of change. His value is higher to us than any other team so we need to just keep him. Hopefully changes happen soon.

 

I'm fine with keeping him but won't hesitate to draft a 2 guard if best player available.

I would not hesitate to trade him for the right star...

Let's say Bam wants out of Miami or Brown in Boston...

I'd move Green before Brooklyn picks...

 

Which part of my explanation was incorrect?

 

The part that I quoted. You said "it looks like the author has mathematically manipulated the traditional TS formula to create a different (but equal) equation using efg%. But when the same data is plugged into both equations, the traditional TS equation gives a higher percentage than the TS equation using efg%." That is not true. His "manipulated" version of the formula gives the same TS as the traditional version. They are the same formula and they give the same result.

 

I suggest you re-read what I wrote.

 

I just re-read it for the third time. What am I missing? Help me out.

 

In your earlier example, you used "Like writing x + x versus 2x."

That's an example of mathematically manipulating an equation to create a different but equal equation. So my explanation was correct.

I didn't plug in numbers in the author's different formulas, but the reason I assumed they yielded different answers was b/c he was comparing results with the phrases "what they should've been" and "what they were".

 

Two mathematically equal equations will always give the same answer. The equation he wrote gives the same TS as the traditionally written formula because they are the same formula. Just like x+x and 2x are the same. You can plug in any numbers you want and they'll give the same answer. The part where you said "But when the same data is plugged into both equations, the traditional TS equation gives a higher percentage than the TS equation using efg%" is the part that isn't correct.

 

Remember in a trade the other team has to say yes too. Green’s value is less than the Brooklyn pick(s) at the moment. IDK on drafting BPA that is how the 76ers would up 5 centers. My hope is Green looks different with different coaching expectations. I think we should move him if and only if there is a fair return for him. (What that is, I truly don’t know). I watched him for a couple of years and stay frustrated more than any other emotion.

 

if we keep him he will ruin the development of sengun and tari...all this penny pinching is for nothing ...you dont need zillion superstars one will do...you trade him for something useful and let others teams get busy trying to reform his bad habits and lazy play...