Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Not detractors, observers.

We want Green to be awesome. He hasn't been. Maybe he will get better or maybe he goes poor man's tyreke evans and disappears...

You can't assume he will suddenly be an efficient scorer, distributor, and defender.... most players his age do not succeed at becoming stars...

 

3rd professional season. My god man.

List those 15 guards. Let's look at their unassisted fgm rate. Their usage rate. How often they are doubled and the center of defensive attention?

Do you think guys like Kobe and Booker were leading their entire draft class in scoring efficiency their first couple of years?

Like that list includes dudes who probably play 10 minutes a game and put up like 3 shots a game.

 

You mean rich man's Tyreke Evans? Green is scoring more and more efficiently than Evans in any of his first 3 years.

Do you see how these style of statements kinda show your hand that you aren't rational here?

To expect a 21 year old to cease improvement is absurd.

 

not how you do it. not helpful.

 

If you don't know that averaging 22 points on okay efficiency is great for a 20 - 21 year old, then I don't know what to tell you. You don't understand ball.

• Kobe at 20: 19.9 points, .54 TS%
• Wade at 22: 16 points, .53 TS%
• Ray Allen at 21: 16 points, .53 TS%
• Vince Carter at 22: 16 points, .51 TS%

I could go on and on. People like you simply do not understand the average trajectory, historically, of young guards.

 

Whole team appears to have stints where they lose focus or motivation.. ***cough**coaching** cough***

Both players have so much potential it's crazy. People on this board are really short sighted to even consider trading either. They are halfway through their second season and nowhere near becoming a finished product. Sengun is much closer to his potential which is to be expected considering how long he has played professionally, but even he has room to grow.

Sengun growth - consistent mid to 3pt shot and improve defensive ability
Green growth - consistency, consistency, consistency, improve strength, and defensive awareness

P.S. Loved seeing Jalen post up Maxey. Don't think he had a clue of what to do after but loved the aggression and determination to draw a foul

 

Its OK trust me I get it. You guys will always have the "glad I was wrong" card in your back pocket and all the vitriol magically goes away. Im not going to assume anything about a 21 year old guy who is far away from his prime. Is he a lockdown defender? Hell no. Is he wildly inconsistent on offense? Hell yes. Is his story finished?

Did Tyreke Evans ever set or match any record of note? You guys are really going out of your way to trash him in my opinion, but that is your right. Doesnt make either side of the debate "right" as of today instead its "to be continued".

 

If Jalen can add 10-15 pounds by next season, he should start utilizing post ups against smaller guards. At his height there will be opportunities to mismatch against smaller guards.

 

the average TS% is now 58% for the league. Those numbers do not reflect the current numbers anymore

 

Do you know basketball? Generational players don't fade into the background, and they almost never put up zero point games, Sengun has though.

 

Exactly... based on draft spot and not performance.

I have no problem with it. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of crying about KPJ when he did more.

 

Ohh if they wanna play the "it's Green's 3rd professional season" card, that works both ways. It's Sengun's FIFTH professional season and he struggles to score over 15 points a game? If Green's a bust then what the **** is Alpi "I live at below 15pt scoring performances" Sengun?

 

There is no hypocrisy if you don't ignore every piece of contextual information that people are providing.

 

And his "first professional season" was in a 15 game Gleague bubble tournament.

 

To the hater list sir.

 

Calling this his 3rd year pro season is egregiously unfair.

A 15 game BubbleSeason in a fledgling league where the talent level is debatable and 100 games in the poorest run/coached organization in the NBA.

he very well may not fulfill it I think he can become but he hasn’t been given a chance. Not to mention his current maturity level isn’t helping. Nor was mine at 21.

 

I'm pretty sure I've been on their dumb list for a while, despite owning a Sengun jersey since last season. I'm a fan of both players, it's really only one of those 2 players' group of fans ******** on every other player on the team and propping up somebody who's performing way below what they're portraying him as. It gets old fast, so might aswell through their own idiocy back in their faces. Five professional seasons and putting up less than 15 points in 53% of his games is generational? Pretty sure if somebody was considered a generational talent and performing like that after 5 years then you'd actually call them a bust. As it is Sengun's a solid pro with the potential to become an all star, he aint generational anything. MVP of a league where his team qualified 2 whole tiers lower than the Euroleague Luka (a true generational talent) was MVP of. HUGE difference.

 

Nonsense. Here are few of the best modern guards:

• Jaden Ivey: .52 TS%
• Anfernee Simons at 20: .50 TS%
• Jordan Poole at 20: .454 TS%
• Tyrese Maxey at 20: .53 TS%
• Dejounte Murray at 21: .485 TS%
• Bradley Beal at 21: .521 TS%
• Jaylen Brown at 20: .539 TS%

Young guards just tend to be less efficient. However, generally speaking, if a 20-yr-old guard is average over 20 points on better than around .52 TS%, that bodes well for his future.

 

Its about the front office and coach top picks no matther if he is good or bad they get from day one all freedom they are starter can take so many shots they wanna and even if they play zero defense they always play. Jokic grek freak or sengun dont have the green light from front office and coach they worked hard for theur min and shots it takes some season till they get same min and shots. We saw sengun git 10 ir 15 min first season and 2nd season bruno was starter imagine silas would say sengun take 20 shots i will not bench u and no matther if u suck on defense u get 35 min what u think how many points he would? Easy 20 to 30 points every game

 

lolol your take cant be more biased

jalen can only dream of becoming a player sengun already is right now offensively and defensively

you are just a blind 3pt culter sir