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Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Balldon'tlie, Feb 11, 2023.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Lol now 19 year olds who are Monta Ellis, better Trevor Arizas jacking up shots because GM folks believe they have the next Luka in hand.

    It's a circus.

    Top 5 picks have too much power rn.
     
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  2. Landry's Tooth

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    LoL... ok...

    Green ts% is 53%. It was higher last year. Leage AVERAGE is 58%.

    There is no guarantee he ever gets to average.

    I guess you need to switch which single stat matters now..
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    You have no idea what a bust is in the NBA.
     
  4. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    I'm comparing him to his peers? Green not only is one of the younger players in the league he also plays a position and role that naturally will give you lower scoring efficiency. When you are comparing league average that includes guys like Clint Capella who get spoon fed looks at the rim.

    Like I said, your logic in the history of the league would have dismissed so many future stars as busts because you have no idea what 19-21 year olds are supposed to do and expect all them then to be Luka or LeBron at that age. It's really stupid and child like.
     
  5. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Can you speak English?
     
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    fchowd0311 Member

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    Jokic takes up so much space and pushes defenders around so easily that a blind man can throw the ball at Jokic's vicinity and not fear getting the ball turned over because the post entry window was super small.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Is this meant to be a joke?

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  8. Landry's Tooth

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    1) Why age 21? Why not 20? 22? 24?
    2) Why 30 points? Why not 35? 25? 40?

    Seems random...
     
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  9. Verbal Christ

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    IF someone were so inclined they could look up the numbers when Alpie plays a legitimate big or top defense. "Best player from the last 2 drafts" wouldnt nut up in the big games. Juuuuust sayin'! ;)
     
  10. Landry's Tooth

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    I wasn't aware Banchero had gotten worse in his second season... do go on...
     
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  11. Landry's Tooth

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    Well, he's bad in all of them so I'm not sure what you're getting at...
     
  12. Landry's Tooth

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    Just a guess... going with Jalen turns the ball over more frequently per touches than Sengun...
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    What? At what point do you stop using the arbitrary argument? Again if a lot more people could do it more than 8 players in league history would average higher ppg than him before the age of 21. The fact that so few players output that much at that age should hint you on why scoring over 20 at age 20 is impressive and clue you in on on that the vast majority of high lottery picks who joined at age 19 didn't start becoming major contributers until like their 3rd or 4th season.

    Yes having only like 3 or 4 guys ahead of you in league history for 30 ppg before the age of 21 should clue you in on how difficult it is for players his age to be high volume scorers.

    And yes every season has a bad team give high usage to a top lottery talent. So every year there is someone in Green's shoes of having the greenlight.
     
  14. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Green has a 11% TOV

    Sengun has a 16% TOV
     
  15. Landry's Tooth

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    I pulled up top 10 defenses by opponents points in the paint. It's 9 teams because Rockets are 6th best paint defense.

    Average game against the top defenses (10 total games):
    14 points
    9.5 FGA
    53% FG%
    7.9 rebounds
    2.6 assists
    1.3 steals
    .9 blocks
    29.33 minutes

    Data from nba.com and bk reference game log download.

    I would say pretty impressive against the best paint defenders...
     
  16. Landry's Tooth

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    Cam Thomas is youngest in leage history to have 3 straight 40 point games. He bet the "record" held by Lebron...

    You still haven't figured out how ridiculous you sound.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    3 straight hot performance games and literally having an average of ppg is the same thing now apparently. Is ppg now arbitrary? Is Cam Thomas 9th all time in ppg for a 20 year old? Is that the same thing as being hot for three games in a row? Are you trolling now?
     
  18. Landry's Tooth

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    Shows 16.8 to 12.3 on bk reference.

    Not sure how that makes up for bricking most of your shots...

    But good for you, you finally found an area where Green isn't among the worst in the league...
     
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  19. Landry's Tooth

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    Yes, I'm mocking you so I guess it's trolling.

    You're kind of asking for it though...
     
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  20. fchowd0311

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    Should I be mocking you for not understanding the concept of "arbitrary". You're so dumb the first time you used this argument against me was replying to my comment when I used a stat that someone who doesn't like Green wanted me to use(adjusted ts% vs actual ts%) and then saying my stats are arbitrary.

    You're a headless chicken with overconfidence thinking you are trolling someone's absurdities when in reality you just lack basic self-awareness.
     

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