Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

The logic is weird. This guy is at his highest value, therefore we should consider trading him.

But trade him for what?

For another player at his highest value? What team is going to trade their high value player for Green's high value potential?

Or for another player at his lowest value? Sell high buy low, right? That's even funnier. Westbrook is at his lowest value. Let's trade our young talents for him. How about Ben Simmons?

Players have high values or low values for a reason.

 

What you hope to do, is find someone that is already breaking and is disgruntled like a Harden or you combine a few of your maybes into a given.

There is no guarantee any of our players break out.

DD

 

Such as?

 

Şengün will teach you basketball. Look, little boy. Basketball is a sport played with the brain. jumping high is not that important anymore.

 

Sengun fans already want him to be traded. There are people with very small brains here.

 

Historically you are correct that Gold medal level stars "declared themselves" by year 2/3 but I also think that timeline is due to most of those guys having play prior years in college or Euro leagues (Luka) prior to NBA. I'm not sure how accurate that judgement is for potential stars drafted out of high school or AAU 2.0 circuit guys, given how few those possible players that even applies to. Just not enough sample size. Unless you are using Jalen's decision and maturity level to choose that route as a sign against him.

However, I worry that if those are the reasons why you are trading Green, won't the league pick up on that? The entire Rockets goal right now is to get gold and silver level stars. If the Rockets are giving up on Green, doesn't that tell the rest of the league he doesn't have it? Especially if they are giving KPJ so many chances?

Even if they think the Rockets FO/Coaching staff is horrible and poisoning the well, they have to be thinking he must be really bad for him to be in trade talks. Plus, I just don't think, in that situation, you will get the value you want for trading Green at the 2023 draft or this upcoming off season. You will get pennies off what even you think he is worth.

 

I don't think he's getting traded in the offseason.

However, hypothetically, the logic of getting him traded may run along these lines:
1. New GM. Emphatically cleaning old regime's mistakes to establish new authority. Getting FRPs for a fresh start.
2. Finding a team that is impressed by high ppg stats and marketability, willing to give away a young player with lower public profile but with higher basketball value. The next Halliburton.
3. Trading for high talent/low value player and extracting additional asset in the process. I.e. trading for a reclamation project + asset. I.e. Bagley or Wiseman + FRP

 

no one has to give up jalen green .but it has to tell you this. "You are no longer Batman". "You are now a robin". If Jalen can understand this situation, no one will have to give up on him.

 

His biggest problem is mental. I get that he was in Miami and turning 21, but bro.... imagine Kobe/MJ doing something like that and then performing this ****. He is always focused on wrong things. Sae thing happened in slam dunk contest, like bro just go and do ****ing dunks, he was so invested in this nft **** making himself look like a clown even before he started missing dunks. If you want to drink - then drink. As long as you at 8 am at the practice the other day is giving 100% or you are not playing. That's how they teach us in Europe and you come to realization that it's better stay home and sleep by yourself It is all good your first-second year but then you can quickly realize you wasted your potential by year 3-4

 

anybody not having Luka 1st was xenophobic. There was not literally one more accomplished player of his age in the history of the game

 

It was the body fat %. Front Offices obsess about body fat, including the "enlightened" Morey FO, who became famous for disparaging Marc Gasol. Same with Jokic. Leaner Euros have faired better, but fat Euros usually drop.

 

LOFs stilll hanging out here trolling I see

 

I just googled it. First 10 mock drafts that came up none had him #1. 2 had him #2, 1 had him #4, the rest were #3.

So just stop. You are making things up. Doncic was not a generational talent because most people didn't even have him 2nd best in his own draft.

You are making things up to make it sound like you have all this basketball knowledge no one else had.

You claim he was thought of like Lebron and I have proven he was not. You may have thought so, but as I pointed out, that is your opinion and not a consensus.

A podcast here or there does not mean 90%+ people thought he would go #1.

I guess you could be arguing there were 3 generational talents in the draft and are putting Ayton and Bagley up there but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

A more extreme example would be if you claimed Giannis was thought of as a once in a generation talent before the draft. I hope that illustrates the absurdity of someone almost no one had in the top 2 being a generational talent.

Not trying to be confrontational, but you're trying to pass off an obvious bluff...

 

He's white you know... a lot of white guys from Europe and other places have been in the nba...

But do explain what Phoenix, Sacramento, and Atlanta were thinking about the foreigner as if they only had Americans on their rosters...

 

Just imagine how less incoherent your posts would be if you (I) learned to use the English language and (ii) were not masturbating to Sengun pics while trying to type **** posts.

Never jerk and type, it only leads to trouble.

 

but they always fell in draft. Luka and Ayton is Sengun vs Fernando, picking the latter for better dunk package is ****ing nonsense to anybody who knows basketball

 

it's just how we European whites are. From my training days, most of the best players were chubby ones. None of us will get as quick or vertical, but those chubby ones usually have a lot of strength and endurance. That is probably the reason not too many European guards are out there, but once you pair it with size and fundamentals, then athletic advantage goes out of the window. Even look at the boxing, how chubby Fury is looking

 

tanking team and his fans has no room to talk about impatience...

tanking is a definition of impatience a paranoid desire to skip the steps and become somebody when you are nobody...
desire to shine with a borrowed money to boast with something not earned but stole, something you cheated your way in....

no substitute for hard work and effort year in year out...

if you are not impatient you take any player from any position in draft and work your way towards championships

 

In the scenario that CH proposed where the Rockets are trading Green "at his current max value", that would be giving up on Green.

If the Rockets just view him as a potential 2nd/3rd star, there is no need to trade him right now.

 

So there is a difference between having a poor coach and culture that does NOT get the players to play hard/smart with "fundamental. disciplined defensive basketball. Now, that means discipline both on and off the court", and just getting a bunch of young players who are very raw and well before their primes with too few veterans.

I would argue the latter is tanking.
The former is what the Rockets are doing.
You don't have to both, but the Rockets have gone full stupid.