Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Soon he’ll be worth two damns.

 

Valid point.

But from an Asset Management POV, what happens if the new coach is serious about hoops and winning, and puts Jalen in the doghouse where he currently belongs AND that doesn't motivate him to get better? You end up with trash asset. That's what happened with Bagley and Luke Walton in SAC, they trade him for nothing at the end. Now with JG at least you can point out to the 30pt games, 40pt games, 20 ppg average, etc. to get a value in return.

So there is a double-edge risk with a new coach.

 

Didn't Cam Thomas just break a bunch of "youngest player 40 points blah blah blah" records a few days ago.

Record high usage of younger players + record amount of 40 point games/scoring = these things are not as impressive as we wish them to be.

That said it's pretty dumb to post a trade Jalen Green thread right after the close of the trading season and clearly something that is not likely to happen

 

I guess finding Harden has made some Rockets fans thinking that this is doable on a regular basis. No, it cannot be done! You were lucky in getting Harden and Harden turned out to be extraordinary.

You need to learn to develop players, team chemistry, have a coach that develops himself, culture. Trading your way into another harden is nearly impossible. Even then it is not certain if he will develop properly.

Green has amazing potential. I understand the frustration because he is not developing well, and that is mostly on coaching and organization. I don't think there is a good solution right now. Play the season, hope that things change in the summer.

 

Jalen Green: Score more high point games than every other player on the team combined with ease.
Sengun Fans: Jalen Green is the worst player ever and belongs in the doghouse.

Seems legit.

 

Except that no "Sengun fan" said that.

 

Green stats from first jear:
31, 9 min , 6,1 FG, 14,2 FGA, 42,6 FG%, 2,3 3P,
6,8 3PA, 34,3 3P%, 17,3 PTS

Greens 2nd hear:
34,3 min, 7,4 FG, 17,9 FGA, 41,3 FG%, 2,6 3P,
7,7 3PA, 33,3 3P%, 19,2 PTS

Watch the stats and tell me green is a good player and he improved and worked on his game. This dude suks and was a mistake with picking no2. Dont know why Rockets still treath him like he is a franchise player

 

Too early. JG, Sengun, Jabari and Tari have all shown us glimpses of what can be a dynamic and winning core in our future. No 20-21 year old is a finished product and as many have said, coaching and development are key to truly reaching one's potential.

Despite how terrible we are record wise, I've been really encouraged by some of our recent play. Those cuts to the basket by JG and pinpoint passes by Alpi have been a thing of beauty and a new twist in our offense. Consistency is tough for young players, especially in our environment/culture. Bari has also discovered he can cut to the basket and be rewarded. The recent play has given me "Glimpses of Hope" a short story created for Rockets' fans.

 

Jalen had no college. Played 15 G league games. Has played 1.5 years in the NBA with terrible coaching and a "mentor" of KPJ. I think he is doing pretty damn well.

 

Yes, but the Rockets need to get him better coaching and mentoring...asap.

 

I agree.

 

Jalen Green has a positive offensive on off defensive rating on this team which is impressive given that he has the heaviest minutes on the worst offense in basketball where his minutes on the court mirror the opposing team's best defenders who are usually the starters.


The Rockets offense at the very least is very reliant on Green's gravity. He consistently draws doubles outside the perimeter and is the only player at the perimeter who demands that attention. Sengun draws all the attention around the painted area.




In this list can you tell me which franchise gave up on their player and wanted to trade them after their second year at age 21?

Btw this list shows total pts. Green actually has the third highest ppg on this list only behind Ant and Kyrie.

 

if u are gonna use data to push your narrative at least make sure it's completely accurate. he's averaging 21.8 pts, a 4 pt jump.

Plus u are comparing a fully complete 1st season vs his 2nd season with games left to complete.

 

Can't tell if they're autistic or just really lazy at this point, lumping people into an "Only Fan" box where everyone just thinks exactly the same.

 

Same thing for KPJ. They put him in a new position with no coaching or mentoring and told him to figure it out. The ONLY reason Sengun is doing so well is the coaching he received playing Euro basketball all these years.

 

Let's say they rerun this list 10 years from now - is Jalen Green still on it?

 

Alperen sengun stats from first jear:
20,7 min, 3,5 FG, 7,3 FGA, 47,4 FG%, 9,6 PTS

Senguns 2nd jear:

28,3 min, 6 FG, 10,5 FGA, 56,7 FG%, 15,3 PTS

U guys see how a good player improve from first to 2nd jear? Now image if sengun get the same min and Attempts like green how many Points he would get

 

Yes. Let's look at the recent players on this list. Booker and Ant. One is a first overall pick who's considered a generational scoring talent and the other recently led teams to finals appearances.

The other two recent players in Beal and Barrett have a rather substantial deficit in ts% compared to Green while also having significantly lower scoring averages.

Also this list shows total pts. Green's ppg is the third highest here with guys like Kobe, Barret and Beal having like a 5 ppg deficit in average. So there is a rather big gap after Green in scoring average and efficiency.

So that would be a lot of first overall elite scoring talents and guys who can lead teams to finals as a guard (Booker and Ant level players) that would be selected in the next ten years for Green to fall of from any list of "most ppg for a guard before 21 years of age".

 

And his innate basketball IQ, I think.

And Tari does well because he just hustles, no matter how idiotic the coaching lol.

And KMJ does well because he can jump out of the gym, regardless of how bad the coaching is. Ok, to be fair, I think his 3-point shot and his reads on the cuts have also improved.

 

Stupid ****ing thread