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Stephen Silas is pissed off

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Feb 6, 2023.

  1. SamFisher

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    Van Gundy wouldn't have been part of a tanking project. There's a reason he quit coaching
     
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  2. Caesar

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    But he worked with young kids again and got revitalized and wanted to coach again and seemed to have no intention of needing a contender to coach. I think he'd coach a young Rockets team.
     
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  3. riko

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    Jaylen Green is an atrocity on defense. This is what happens when as a coach you let these young guys run the the whole team without any accountability for years. You create a monster who feels entitled and now it’s to late in his career for him to develop good habits
     
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    I feel for Silas. He has poured all his efforts into a cup with a hole in it. Silas truly believes if he gives and gives others will give back in return. This is true with mature people but even then some will take and take then complain about the amount given. This is the difference between a church and mission. The needy and greedy.

    After the trade deadline he should start calling the players out by name. Something like player “X” can’t or won’t do “Y” (what is asked of him even though we go over it practice/film over and over again and again). I want to give him the opportunity to find success and that is why I left him in the game even though he definitely doesn’t deserve the playing time.

    Silas needs to start being really transparent and that transparency will hold players accountable. Basically these are the expectations… His career is over as a head coach anyway.
     
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  5. riko

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    Well he can start by benching people who don’t give the defensive effort required for even this train wreck of team. Years ago I remember against New Orleans Bj Bickerstaff as an interim coach benched the entire starting lineup within 4 minutes of the start of the game because he felt they weren’t switched on and yes that included Harden who had got Kevin Mcfail sacked a few week’s earlier which was warranted.

    so really he should be doing the same
     
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    He sure hasn't been shy about calling out Sengun.
     
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  7. kingkingston

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    Love the passion
     
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    Doesn’t even seem genuine. Seems like a guy pretending to be upset. Dump him ASAP
     
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  9. Deckard

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    Is he pissed off? So am I.
    At him.
     
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    Sengun has shown development too.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I don't think you're reading what I'm saying. I don't care about wins or good defense. I want them to not want to be scored on. I don't buy that they know they're supposed to guard their man but then give up on the play cause there was no vet around in practice the previous day.

    Chasing, running back, jumping for loose balls, holding your ground in the post. These are things you do if they threw you in a basketball game before you even learned how to dribble or learned the rules of basketball.

    You're talking about a way down the road thing. I understand the point you've been making repeatedly. We'll need vets to win.

    The point I'm making is this is not a culture issue this is a character issue. A rookie Patrick Beverley would not play lazy defense on this exact team with this exact staff even if he were 17 years old.
     
  12. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Just want to point out that this post is in relation to a 20 year old. It's too late in his career? lol

    Get your feelings under control man. All 20 year olds change. Even the ones with good habits can end up having a bad attitude. That's how young 20 is.
     
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  13. gfab-babyboi

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    99% of the loudest squawkers in this thread and forum don’t read articles, don’t listen to practice comments and that includes the SOFs in here

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...fense-film-session-stephen-silas-17769641.php

    Eye-opening film session helps Rockets confront defensive issues in back-to-back blowout losses
    Danielle Lerner, Staff writer
    Updated: Feb. 7, 2023 6:30 p.m.

    If coach Stephen Silas’ scathing rebukefollowing Monday’s loss to the Kings wasn't enough to jar the Rockets, Tuesday’s practice and film session might have done the trick.

    Rockets forward Jae’Sean Tate said players saw themselves not sprinting back on defense, not getting into defensive stances, not helping one another. They watched the Kings back-cut them over and over and saw transition breakdowns lead to open Sacramento 3-pointers.

    “Film doesn't lie,” Tate said. “And just seeing our body language, our posture, is a wake-up call. Because you know, sometimes you don't see certain things. You think you're playing hard, but the film showed that we have a lot more gears and levels that we can get to, and we're hoping to do that tomorrow.”

    Tate’s comments sounded like the session had sparked a realization. Asked why it took 54 games and 41 losses for players to notice the lack of effort, Silas said he didn’t think it was a season-long affliction.

    “I wouldn't say that,” he said. “I think that we had seven games in a row that we outshot the opponents, so this is just a bump in the road that needs to be addressed. I don't think there's any kind of awakening or whatever. We were playing good defense for a while, and we stopped, so we’ve got to get back to doing that.”

    The period of good defense Silas was referring to was back in December, when the Rockets went 5-10 and had their best month as far as defensive rating (115.4, 20th in the NBA) and field-goal percentage defense (46.3 percent, fifth in the NBA).

    Then the Rockets lost 13 consecutive games from Dec. 27 to Jan. 21. In the eight games since the losing streak ended — including wins over Minnesota, Detroit and Oklahoma City — Houston’s defensive rating is fourth-worst in the league. During that span, the Rockets allowed the most points off turnovers of any team and ranked among the bottom four teams in opponent second-chance points and opponent fast-break points.

    Monday’s 140-120 loss to the Kings was more of the same, Rockets forward Jabari Smith Jr. said.

    “They’re doing whatever they want,” Smith said. “We're not making (anything) tough on them. We're playing with no energy, no sense of urgency. They’re a good team, and us playing like that against good teams — you're not gonna beat nobody allowing 140 points. We know that. Just got to be better.”

    Silas said his emotional reaction Monday night was prompted by Houston’s “horrendous defense” that allowed a combined 293 points in back-to-back losses to Oklahoma City and Sacramento.

    Silas said he would take accountability measures in response but declined to share exact plans or whether repercussions would include decreasing minutes for certain players. He did say he was pleased by the response he got from Rockets players during the film session Tuesday.

    “There was a lot of head nods to what I said,” Silas said. “There was a lot of ‘you’re rights.’ There was a lot of ‘my bads’ and all that. But yeah, we have a good group of guys, and they take responsibility, and they're not afraid of the accountability that comes along with it. So yeah, it was a good film session.”

    The Rockets’ youth is a well-worn talking point, one Silas isn’t fond of using as an excuse for poor performances. But it is something he has to keep in mind when instructing a group that includes just four players older than 24 and deciding when to let them play through mistakes.

    “It's something I think about as far as, how hard do I go? How much do I let go?” Silas said. “So yeah, I understand that part (the youth). But I do owe it to the players, to the organization, to coach them and not just allow poor play to just permeate throughout the group and have it be addressed. Not addressing it is doing those young guys a disservice.”

    Tate, who is in his third NBA season but at 27 is one of the Rockets’ oldest players, was asked whether players need to hold each other accountable or if the coaching staff needs to get more out of them.

    “It's on individual accountability,” he said. “Everybody can see things that they can do better. And at the end of the day, nobody wants to lose. Nobody wants to have bad games. So we just have to be accountable for ourselves, and everybody has to be accountable for themselves but also as a team.”

    Smith, for example, spent the latter part of Tuesday’s practice watching film one-on-one with Silas and then with Rockets assistant Lionel Hollins. The rookie forward has been in a shooting slump lately but typically takes pride in his defensive ability. Not in the back-to-back losses.

    “I take blame for it because I feel like my energy wasn't there in those two games, and I feel like I'm our best defender,” Smith said. “I feel like Draymond (Green) wouldn't come out in a game and do that. Like, the best defensive players in the league are not gonna have a night where they're not showing up on the defensive end and not leading their team on that end. So I feel like that's my job to do that, and I haven't been doing that. That's why I feel like our defense has been lacking.”

    The Rockets have four more games until the All-Star break. After playing the Kings again at Toyota Center on Wednesday, they go on a three-game trip to Miami, Philadelphia and Oklahoma City.

    “This is the hardest part of the season: getting closer to the break,” Tate said. “This is where teams have to either come together or lay down, and we're not going to be one of those teams that lay down. And coach Silas has emphasized that.”

    Smith added, “It’s just our job to make it tough on them and just play with a lot more energy. Houston deserves that. We deserve that. So just play hard.”

    Until the Rockets demonstrate, in Wednesday’s rematch with the Kings and subsequent games, that they can stick to scouting reports and put forth the requisite effort, it will be just talk.
     
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    “I take blame for it because I feel like my energy wasn't there in those two games, and I feel like I'm our best defender,” Smith said. “I feel like Draymond (Green) wouldn't come out in a game and do that. Like, the best defensive players in the league are not gonna have a night where they're not showing up on the defensive end and not leading their team on that end. So I feel like that's my job to do that, and I haven't been doing that. That's why I feel like our defense has been lacking.”

    Ah, man.
    I'm a big supporter, but honestly, he hasn't done anything yet to be talking like this and comparing himself to Draymond Green, IMO.

    But in the end, it doesn't matter.
    Here's hoping he'll be walking the walk within the next few years.
     
  15. Swapshop

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    If Silas is truly pissed off then we should expect to see the players who wasn't giving the effort he expects of them being benched next game. Obviously he wont because he isn't serious.

    Rockets have become a joke.
     
  16. Easy

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    Not sure if it's "judging" or not. You can say it's judging. Don't we all judge people's body language when they talk? I mean, it's part of communication. I don't know what he was looking at or doing when he talked. The whole thing just felt weird, some kind of dissonant vibe. Maybe he's just bad at communicating emotions.

    Look, I gave Silas a lot of benefit of the doubt in the past year and a half. But I've found that defending him is getting harder and harder. There are too many things he does that is inexplicable. I still can't decide whether he is that clueless or there's some hidden agenda behind it.
     
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    Precisely, dude quit because his combative spirit was not meant to be in the league long term.

    Would have taken a toll on his well being because this dude was so competitive.

    He was mad about the smallest things.
     
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    I am envious, you are the lone ranger and defender of the poor.
     
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    Tate and Jabari at least seem interested in individual accountability, but there’s no indication that the team defense will improve based on a film session of ‘head nods’ and ‘my bads’.

    it’s difficult to understand why Silas is still HC o_O


     
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    This makes no sense at all. We DO have the worst coach in NBA history statistically speaking!!! While in a perfect world it would be nice to see a great work ethic from 20 year olds, I can tell you that doesn’t happen at my workplace and especially if I gave them each 10 million dollars and had no discipline or rules around it…they’d be out partying and having a blast of a time with that money and being young. Work would be one of the last things on their young minds.
     
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