Jalen Green is literally Devin Booker -- with a slightly different bag. The Suns in Booker's first four seasons finished 14th, 15th, 15th and 15th in the West. Their starting PGs during that span? Brandon Knight (blah), Eric Bledsoe (not a bad player but not a floor-general or a setup guy), Tyler Ulis (5'8" and shortly out of the league soon after) and De'Anthony Melton (a defensive SG). Booker's 2nd season stats: 22.1ppg on 42.3% FG (18.3att), 3.2rpg, 3.4apg, 36.3% 3FG (5.2att), 83.2% FT (5.7att) | 53.1 TS%; 14.6 PER Green's 2nd season stats: 21.6ppg on 41.1% FG (17.8att), 4.1apg, 3.7apg, 33.2% 3FG (7.6att), 78.0% FT (5.7att)| 53.2 TS%; 13.7 PER It may be hard to remember now, but Booker was essentially labeled as an high-volume scorer who didn't contribute to winning after 4 seasons. By his 4th season, they had some young talent around him (Ayton, Bridges), but as a scoring SG, he wasn't going to lift that group on his own, he needed a PG. In his 5th year they got Rubio, who might be a role-player, but knows how to run an offense. The Suns only finished 10th, but Booker's efficiency shot up and he got his first All-Star selection. The next season they added Paul and they shot up to the top of the conference. Green needs a PG. I don't like a lot of what he does right now, but I'm holding off on the criticism until he gets at least a decent PG next to him. Now if we pair him with an elite one...watch out.
I'm not sure you're really aware of what Green's scoring performances have actually been like this year. I'll break it down for you: <10 pts= 2 games 10-15pts = 9 games 16-20pts = 11 games 21-25pts = 12 games 26-30pts = 11 games 31+ points = 5 games. For reference, that means he scored 11 games of 15 points or less and 39 games where he scored over 15 points. As a percentage, he scores less than 15 pts on 22% of his games, hardly the narrative you're trying to spin...ESPECIALLY when you also say you like Bari who is performing so much worse than Green it makes everything you just wrote look completely comical.
Yeah I agree that’s why I was saying it’s a start ! Getting rid of KPJ and replacing him with someone like FVF would be an amazing start !
jalen has a lot of potential however i think this surrounding is killing him... if he were to play for GSW or Spurs even, hed be much better and thriving no accountability here no good goals .. his shot selection is terrible. he is the most athletic guy and all he ever does is chucking some tough 3 pointers... he needs to learn from sengun... sengun is hesitant to fire any shot, even open 3 pointer, let alone the toughest 3 pt shots jalen takes on regular...because why? why not torture opponents little first, why not have some fun and make em run around... he has no brain... you are not disabled person you have legs walk/run to the basket you fool ! and fire an easier shot or dunk it! if there is no easy shot, pass the ball and reset the action... smart basketball is so simple and easy to play... hero ball is tough...
He is 20 and figuring things out. If it was so easy to learn how to play smart basketball Brandon Ingram, Zach Lavine and Booker would've been all stars much earlier in their career instead of in their mid 20s.
Jalen needs to go straight up and down on jump shots. The drifting is what hurts his accuracy. as far as finishing at the rim. He seems to have improved and is definitely drawing more fouls. I think some of the issues arrive from him moving so incredibly fast, and still not being entirely comfortable finishing through contact. He could almost stand to slow down a little bit on his drives.
To be fair to Book, a ton of the Suns' lack of success under Booker and today can be attributed to drafting two massive busts in back to back years (Bender and Jackson), and whiffing hard on Culver in 2019. The Rockets need to hit on their draft pick in 2023 at all costs, Wam Bam would be amazing but I'm personally hoping for Scoot.
Rockets need to Realize that TyTy should be a Starting Point Guard and KP should be a 6th Man. Jalen Green just needs to discipline himself and play within Team Oriented Style of Play. This is where Stephen Silas is not doing his job and not putting Guard Plays that results in more Easy Shots. Alperen Sengun is Special and Jalen Green and Especially KP needs get rid of his Ego, Stay out of the way and Play Team Passing Offense. Everyone can get their Points if Alperen starts the offense. If TyTy is the Starting Point Guard the Offense can be very Efficient.
You are literally not making sense. There's zero indication that Green is projected to get the max from anyone. From public opinions alone Green is not highly touted compared to his peers in the same draft. How are you selling "high" when most people consider Giddey, Mobley, Barnes, Wagner, Sengun. to be clearly superior players, while Green is pretty much an after thought at this point. The people who are hopeful about him are typically just Rocket fans/media Depend on who we draft next year, I actually expect Greens role to be reduced if he continues to struggle with efficiency. His stock right now is at a pretty low place.
The number of points scored is not the issue with Green. I wonder how they can help him develop so he starts playing somewhat adequate defense? He is by far the worst defender on the Rockets.
I was responding directly to somebody who was claiming that Green had 1 good scoring game and then 5 games of 15 points or less, I was illustrating he was wrong. Not really sure why you quoted me tbh, you should've just read what I was replying to.
Well, the thread is about Green. I agree with you that his scoring output is not a problem. I'm just really concerned about his defense. Will he ever be even average on defense?
He's shown plenty of times he can be, just needs to put the effort in and have a coach who teaches them how to do things properly. At 1 and a half seasons in the league with no college I think people are blowing it up way out of proportion. Especially when a lot of the same people are still rating Jabari as good considering he's worse in every single way than Green right now. Plenty of big time scorers with sub par defense with long careers in the NBA, we used to have an awesome one with marvellous facial hair.
it kinda is a problem. If you’re so one-dimensional, you need to put humongous scoring numbers to have a positive impact. He needs to score at Cam Thomas level if we’re to overlook the bad D
This simply isn't true. Two weeks ago major publications like the Athletic have Green in an entire different tier of value than Sengun. Two weeks ago Green was in his lowest point of struggling.
lol he is still drafted before sengun at the rising stars...just goes to prove people just love them some empty 3 pt chuckers
