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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    "objectively."
     
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    It's always the same crap with you right wingers. You always scream about dems havnt done anything to help the poor and middle class. I then give you pages of accomplishments and you folks pivot and run with the next conspiracies. You can never debate with facts because you'll get embarrassed like usual.

    Back to more conspiracies and lies for you all.
     
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    That’s some knee slapping comedy right there. I especially love your personal attacks at the end of most of your “debates” lol. It really shows your true colors.

    You’re basically making a “debate” about Biden and his health care policy when I specifically referenced corrupt democratic cities that continue to steal from the poor in those cities. I can give you pages of articles of corrupt democrats from colleges to mayors, to you name it. But surely you can google that yourself as I’d rather spare you the embarrassment. Hope you have a fantastic day!
     
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    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    No, Biden hasn’t don’t **** to help people, everything you mentioned is to keep those people in the same exact spot they are. Is he putting the young kids in school? Is he helping them get jobs? What the hell is he doing to help people out of poverty other than give them free handouts to stay in poverty? Your logic is ridiculous.
     
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    You asked me how biden made lives easier for poor folks then when I present them you turn to garbage arguments about other facts.

    What does corrupt mayor's and other garbage have to do with bidens policies? We're talking about things BIDEN has done to help make lives easier for folks.

    Biden just banned non competes that effect over 30% of the workforce. Do you have any idea how much of a problem lack of Healthcare is for poor folks? Most doctors who serve underprivileged communities are tied to non competes with non profit hospitals which doesn't allow them to fully care for the community. What biden is doing will allow millions of poor folks to have better access to Healthcare.

    You're just spewing random bullshit cuz you have no coherent talking point.
     
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    Sigh. You must literally be effin blind.







    Bidens economic bills he's signed are all designed to help poor folks get higher paying jobs. All the jobs are mandated to pay 20 hr+ plus he has billions allocated for trade school aid and other work programs.Bidens entire economic plan was to CREATE jobs ffs for poor and working class people. That's the whole point of the infrastructure bill



    The entire approach is to give folks good paying green energy jobs without a college degree
     
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    The infrastructure bill will create jobs and helping people by subsidizing their health insurance is not going to help people? Do I have that right? Biden's policies have aided many...I don't understand why Republicans or even some "independents" here can't admit that.

    Let's not forget that the GOP stopped the bill passing capping insulin prices for everyone because...why was that again?
     
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    The inflation reduction act which is onshoring hundreds of thousands of jobs require employers to hire American workers and pay them a minimum of 45k-65k depending on the industry. It's literally creating brand new industries which none require a college degree.

    Most of these blue collar green energy jobs (solar panel installing, installing heat pumps, battery manufacturing) all pay sub standard wages right now compared to other fields. The bill is going force huge pay raises for millions of workers so employers can unlock more tax savings.

    These folks can't even make coherent arguments.
     
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    Again depends on how it’s regulated like everything. Democrats want a fair playing field. Republicans philosophically want survival of the fittest and may the shrewdest grifter win. I mean they are open about that now.

    I think it’s good to have a balance of a bit of both so we aren’t too regulated and aren’t too greedy of a culture, but when the partisan Supreme Court stepped in with Citizens United, they tipped the scales off the cliff. The Constitution was written to give SCOTUS the power to essentially read laws, and if they can’t interpret, kick it to Congress to create updated laws that provide clear interpretations.

    SCOTUS seized power they should have never been given and the Obama admin was powerless given how Congress didn’t step in to override, and when McConnell took over he further emboldened.

    So just philosophically and functionally there’s just no objective way of making a case that both parties are equally corrupt. It’s not even close.

    R’s openly supporting and promoting the destruction of Separation of Church and State just turns the church into another lobbying firm. In the end it’ll turn Americans away from the church though which is why the framers wanted separation written into the constitution to begin with… to protect the church and keep religion popular.
     
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    Bruh for whatever reason this triggered you hard. The point of that post is simply that Tucker Carlson is a two-faced twat. And while, of course, corruption is not exclusive to any one political party, in this country Republicans are in a league of their own. It's not even close.
     
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    link?
     
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    Are you trying to claim that these programs help the poor more than the previous administrations tax cuts? Because that’s silly.
     
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    Just the Medicare prescription price cap alone is a massive win for everyday people. The Part D Act of 2003 was a complete taxpayer giveaway to big Pharma and it took
    20 years to fix what should have been common sense in the first place.

    If you actually take 5 minutes and focus you would realize why the GOP focuses on culture war boogeymen:

    1. Blue states like CA and NY create all of the jobs and tax revenue while red states like MS, OK, KY, AL, LA are the exact opposite. Republicans are exactly what they claim to hate: welfare recipients.

    2. Under Dem Presidents we have reduced budget deficits and the opposite under Rep. Tax and spend is a 100x better than borrow and spend. Every time we cut taxes for the rich our national debt explodes.

    3. Pay attention to actual laws that are passed that help you. Preventive healthcare being free, allowing your kids to stay on your insurance until age 26, not allowing preexisting conditions to be excluded? That was Obama and the PPACA. Capping drug prices for Seniors and negotiating costs for Medicare prescriptions? That’s Biden.

    Who signed that 2003 bill without allowing for price negotiations or caps? That would be Bush Jr.

    This isn’t hard if you turn off Fox, NewsMax etc. and look at the facts. But it’s easier to just live life perpetually offended over Disney, Dr. Seuss or whatever woke of the week makes you clutch your pearls.
     
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    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ore-criminal-indictments-under-trump-reagan-/

    Nixon: 28 key indictments. There were 72 indictments charging 68 people (58 were convicted), all in the Watergate scandal or related investigations. But arguably only 28 of the 68 were part of, or closely tied to, Nixon’s administration. They included two of Nixon’s attorneys general, two White House counsels, two secretaries of treasury and a number of White House aides.

    Click here to see a spreadsheet listing the Watergate indictments.

    Reagan: 33 people indicted. 18 people indicted (16 convicted) in an investigation of fraud, corruption and influence-peddling within the Department of Housing and Urban Development; 14 people, including Caspar Weinberger and Oliver North, charged (11 convicted) in the Iran-contra scandal, an illicit arms deal with Iran orchestrated by members of the administration; and White House aide Lyn Nofziger was charged (his conviction was overturned) over corruption allegations surrounding Wedtech, a military contractor.

    Clinton: 2 officials indicted. Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy was charged (and acquitted) over allegations that he accepted improper gifts from businesses and lobbyists. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros was convicted (and pardoned) of making false statements to law enforcement about hush money payments to his former mistress.

    Obama: None.

    Carter: None.

    https://news.yahoo.com/every-trump-campaign-administration-official-210841129.html
    • Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was convicted in 2018 on federal bank and tax fraud charges, pleaded guilty to more federal conspiracy charges, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in federal prison. Trump granted Manafort a full pardon in December 2020.

    • Former campaign chief Steve Bannon was charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering in connection with a scheme to defraud donors to fund a wall at the US southern border. Trump pardoned Bannon in January 2021 before he could face trial.

    • Informal Trump adviser and "fixer" Roger Stone was convicted on seven counts on obstruction, making false statements, and witness tampering in connection to the Mueller probe and was sentenced to three years in prison. Trump commuted Stone's sentence in July 2020 and fully pardoned him in December 2020.

    • Deputy Trump campaign manager Rick Gates, a key aide to Manafort, pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiracy and false statements and received only a 45-day sentence thanks to his extensive cooperation with investigators in the Mueller probe. He did not get a presidential pardon.

    • Trump's short-lived National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI in connection. Flynn, who went on to push conspiracy theories about non-existent fraud in the 2020 election, received a full pardon from Trump in November 2020.

    • Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to tax fraud, bank fraud, campaign finance violations, and lying to Congress in 2018, and was sentenced to three years in federal prison. Cohen, who turned on Trump after pleading guilty and cooperated with prosecutors, did not get a pardon.

    • Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in connection to the Mueller probe and served 14 days in federal prison.

    • Trump Inaugural Committee chairman Tom Barrack was charged with federal crimes including unlawful lobbying, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to investigators in July 2021.
     
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    Biden is destroying the energy industry right MAGA?
     
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    Biden is easily the worst president we've ever seen which is saying a lot as he can't even remember where he is half of the time
     
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