We picked the better player later two years in a row

Whilst I agree he needs to improve, I'd also counter that a little bit by saying how many other players on the team have had multiple 40 pt games this year? He's been inconsistent as hell and he's averaging more than most other players of the team's season high in scoring. People need to stop with the ridiculous snap-judgments, step back and actually take a look at the numbers people Green's age tend to put up and compare them to his. He's nowhere close to as bad as y'all make him out to be, and if he gains consistency on the scoring end he's clearly the most potent offensive weapon we have and it's not even remotely close. Is he a great all rounder? No, but he was never bidded as one, he's supposed to be a scorer. Consistency, better coaching and more effort on defense and he's the star of the team whether the Sengunatics like it or not.

 

@Os Trigonum but no one likes when I do my mathematical analysis on the same thing for when Sengun is out. But here we are.

 

Sounds about right.

which brings me to this question:
How much can we really blame Silas if he’s not allowed to play the players who perform the best?

I mean, really? I was as down on him as anybody, but if a coach is ordered to play the non-performers, is it really fair to criticize him?
We’re 2-0 in last two. Is Silas now a better coach?

 

That's a fair point, if Stone is micromanaging the lineup to the detriment of the team then he needs to go as well....but a coach as weak as Silas needs to be gone no matter what. No real coach would put up with that kind of thing just to keep collecting checks. They'd play whoever they wanted no matter what the GM said and be fine with being fired for doing the right thing knowing they can get another job.

That said, I'm not sure it's Stone forcing things. I think Silas wants things a certain way and he's too weak to hold top picks accountable for poor performances.

 

I'm sorry to say this but I'm beginning to doubt Green is going to grow into the true professional we really want and hope he will be. I'm not suggesting he's as got as far to go as KPJ but the lack of defensive effort really has me losing faith in him as the answer. Good for buckets and that's about. I hope I'm wrong.

Smith, on the other hand, I still believe is going to be special because of his defensive intensity.

 

At this point in their respective careers, Apli looks like he's the Alpha dog!

The problem is that our players are all very young pups, and as pups they are all looking for guidance and structure which unfortanutely is severely lacking in this organization!! I predict that the true alpha dog will will unequivocally present himself when the new head coach arrives
and order and structure is finally prioritized!! Right now we have a very young group of players playing ragtag basketball!!

IMHO, tanking and playing cohesive structured basketball are not polar opposites! Both can and will be achieved under the right oaching staff!!

Go Rockets!!!
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excellent points.
A coach will have to establish a proper pecking order, honcho hierarchy. Alperen seems to be the guy. But with great power comes great responsibility. If we give Alpi the keys he better drives us some nice place next year, like the play-in, at the very least.

Jalen, KPJ and Jabari will have to accept the secondary roles. It won’t be easy after two years of lack of responsibility and not establishing a culture that rewards merit and performance. Now these kids who were coddled because of "potential" and draft pick number will have to drink a glass of cold water and take a back seat. Not gonna be easy.

 

lol you love tanking so much! but tanking and winning are the polar opposites so you fully deserve the worst team in nba for 3rd year in a row!

 

of course they are better off not playing sengun cause they can devote to playing basketball then instead of being busy icing out sengun...

sengun needs to play in the right role and the right usage othewise youre better off without sengun...

 

I don't know if Alpi is gong to be the alpha but he's definitely shown a the bball iq that exceeds his years. I also feel like Kenyon Martin Jr is essential to his continued growth. He and Alpi play so well off of each other that I'd hate to lose that chemistry. KMJ seems to push Alpi in a very healthy way and these are the types of supporting players we need around the cornerstone pieces.

 

Good numbers on a bad team don’t mean ****. Seen it with Tyreke Evans and he won ROY and was out of the NBA 4 years later

 

Tyreke Evans was in the league for 10 years

 

This year, I don't care which pick has played better to this point.
What I think does matter is getting clearer on who the keepers, with the trade deadline and the coming off-season in mind, are and who do we package up in a trade.

My keepers are Green, Alpi, Tari & Bari. I would like to keep KMJ, but he maybe needed in a trade scenario.

My biggest question is when we do decide to make a trade, are we merely trying to even the roster or are Tilman & Stone going to try and swing for the fences?

The answer to this will bear mightily on the types of players we will be shipping out.

 

Tyreke settled to be a solid player and had off the court issues, that's why he's no longer in the NBA but people should keep the point of your post in mind when judging ALL of these players. Not just Green. None of it means much if you're not winning.

Saying Sengun is better than Green now is cute right now but Sengun is still on the worst team in the NBA. Until the numbers result in winning it doesn't really matter, nothing to brag about. They are all good prospects that need to put it together.

Sengun and Tari have pretty large holes in their game, it's just that they are a little more consistent in what they bring, Tari with effort and hustle and Sengun with his playmaking ability.

 

100% this.

This is all that matters right now, who do you keep and who do you trade away, like what they are doing on a bad team, the numbers, it doesn't matter too much. Not saying its irrelevant, but the real question is if they are keepers right now or not.

As of this season, Green, Alpi, Tari, Bari, are all keepers because they are still young, you don't sell low and trading them right now is selling low. So unless you are for some reason getting a young star back like Ja or Luka, these guys are not at all being traded away.

KMJ is definitely a consideration, but maybe not right now. I'd rather see who we draft and sign this offseason, there just might not be room for KMJ...but if there is a good trade out there for him, I'd do it. We can judge the trade when/if it comes.

But right now I agree that those 4 guys I'm not thinking about trading.

 

lol you have a pretty large hole in your nba analyst game...sengun is one of the best players in nba already and you are the fan of the worst team in nba rooting for them to lose more games...not very bright idea...not a very good analyst... if sengun has pretty large hole in his game then this is also true for every nba player...

let say giannis, his lack of 3 pt shooting is a pretty big hole am i right? lebron?

if he didnt have any holes he wouldnt be on the freaking 12 place in WC LOL

jokic? his defense leaves a lot to be desired so is hardens kyries etc

lolol sengun haters are the worst!

 

You just compared Sengun to Giannis, Lebron, Jokic, MVPs all, Jokic isn't a champion but certainly good enough to be one...then just said he's one of the best players in the NBA.

I don't think I have to say anything more than just point out how silly the above is.

 

Sengun is a great young player but he isnt winning games alone. Ja Morant (minus Sengun) would have us at significantly more wins IMO.

 

Alpi is not better than Green.