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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

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    Gabbert tested as an elite athlete. There is no arguing that. If Richardson tests anywhere near what Gabbert did people will lose their ****. You may not like it but that is what the facts are.
     
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    Levis is nice but right now we don’t have an Andy Reid or Kafka or someone like that to develop him. Like Richardson, they are going to need a truly awesome offensive coaching staff. Although I’m confident Demeco will put a solid staff together, I could see it being a few unknowns.

    Bryce Young’s question is his girth, that’s about it. We know he can play QB at a high level and I feel confident about it translating. Hopefully they don’t overthink this.
     
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  3. Caesar

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    Those deep balls with barely any breathing room do look enticing too. Id take Richardson low completion % vs Levis throwing the ball to the other team all season long.. I suppose for me, when comparing him to Richardson, I like the value of those 2 better in the lower top 10 vs #2 overall.
     
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    Richardson will test better than Gabbs, If I’m wrong about this then I’ll bow down to the master scout.

    ETA: Athletically I mean. Combine skills, arm strength, etc. he may overthrow every single receiver during pro days, I have no idea. He’s a complete wild card
     
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  5. cmoak1982

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    Agreed
     
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    I like that Richardson is younger
     
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    He will run 4.5s but the explosion tests will be similar. Gabbert had an elite 3 cone, broad jump and vertical.

    Did it translate? No. But he tested stupid numbers. He was also graded a 7.5 on NFL scouting. Perennial All Pro level.

    Boy were they wrong
     
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    Washington
     
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    Put a pin in this, we’ll go back to it.

    I predict he’ll run a 4.47 with better 3 cone, broad jump, and vertical
     
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    Do you agree with that?
     
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    If he runs better than a 6.84 3 cone at his size, it would be among the best ever.
    Anything over 10 ft is elite at his size (Gabbert jumped 10 ft exactly)

    And I doubt he runs a 4.4 at combine, at pro say I can see it. Fields wouldn’t have ran a 4.4 at combine either
     
  12. cmoak1982

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    I don’t, but I think Washington has the highest upside
     
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    Sucks that Bowers isn’t draftable yet. He’s going to be unreal
     
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    Dude looks like a stud.
    Honestly the next two drafts there is some super talented TEs. I would like to grab one
     
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    Yeah, I thought that was interesting, but Kincaid jumps off the film...
     
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  16. gucci888

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    FA will be a big tell. If they sign a notable vet like Jimmy G, a defensive guy seems a lot more plausible. I’m absolutely calling their bluff if they are relatively inactive though.

    But for the Bears, worst comes to worst, they get a Tyree Wilson/Myles Murphy + multiple picks including one or more 1st rounders.
     
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    Richardson is a close 2nd. He really should have stayed in another year. However, this is a weak QB class overall. He will probably be the 4th QB overall taken in the 1st. I think he will end up being great if he goes somewhere he can sit for at least a year
     
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    Does 2, 33 and a 3rd satisfy the draft compensation/trade value chart? Seems "cheap".
     
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