Talent? Both Bortles and Gabbert are far more talented physically than either Young or Stroud. Production is definitely in favor of those two
Literally no one would think Stroud or Young are more physically gifted than Bortles or Gabbert. They would be idiots. QB skills? That’s a different conversation. Young is elite compared to them. Stroud is not
Do you want to clarify what you just stated? I’m trying to be positive and all with the Demeco hire but WTAF?!
Clarify? Gabbert and Bortles are more physically gifted than either Stroud or Young. That’s not even debatable. 6’4/6’5 230+ 4.6 speed with big arms. Bortles is probably closer to Stroud but he probably has a bigger arm. Neither of them had good QB skills, that’s also not debatable. Young is a much more polished QB. I don’t think Stroud is but we will see Was it not clear that Young and Stroud had far more production?
Haha no you’re good, it read as though you said production was in favor of the two physically gifted players
No lol, definitely not. I’m just saying physically they are prototypes. Still doesn’t mean much unless they have the actual skills needed mentally.
Blaine Gabbert? Get the **** outta here. What a complete joke. Also, I'm not super high on stroud but to act like Gabbert and Bortles had much better QB skills than Stroud...I just don't agree with that.
Blaine Gabbert did not have a big arm. It doesn't matter that he was 6'4 or 6'5. That's like saying Schaub had a big arm bc he's a big QB. Absolutely ridiculous. Gabbert didn't have a complete trash arm, but it's absurd to say he had a cannon. Blaine Gabbert was awful in college and even worse in the NFL, and for reasons I can't fathom Todd McShay thought he was going to be incredible.
What?! Gabbert was known for having a very strong arm. Bortles was the one that didn’t have a cannon. Gabbert was Cam Newton with a stronger arm. Just no QB skills
I just can't. Blaine Gabbert is a trigger for me. He's one of the worst QBs I've ever seen on an NFL field. I realize there were a lot of reasons that contributed to that, but it was blowing my mind he was even being considered as a first round prospect. Blake Bortles had solid physical skills, a B arm, you could see some of the physical talent. Gabbert? He was 6'4 and ran a 4.6 but played like 5'4 with a 5.2 40. He wasn't actually fast on the field, nor did his arm impress, either in accuracy or strength.
I’m not saying Gabbert was good at all, but to deny that he had elite physical traits isn’t being honest. He was a total idiot, not accurate and couldn’t read a field to save his life. But he had elite size, mobility and top shelf arm
Just to be clear, when you say "top shelf arm", you are saying Blaine Gabbert's arm strength is comparable to Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Stafford, Herbert? Or are you just throwing out that term loosely?
In terms of strength? It was up there. In terms of practical use? Not even close. Literally every scouting report you can find says great arm strength, top shelf arm, make every throw and fit into tight windows.
That’s what he was compared to, that size and athleticism. Not saying that it translated onto the field, but that was the scouting reports. He was supposed to be a perennial pro bowler
There are scouting reports that say Travis Kelce is a bad route runner with stones for hands... that doesn't make it accurate. There are a ton of misevaluated players and reports on them. When they said Gabbert had a strong arm, they probably watched his pro day and got excited, but he never displayed an ability to push the ball down the field in college or in the NFL. I'm not saying he was Matt Schaub, but nothing about his arm strength stood out.
My point is that he had a normal NFL arm. It wasn't a noodle like Schaub or Pennington, but he wasn't firing lasers like some of the actual elite NFL arms, accuracy notwithstanding.
