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Congratulations to Gov DeSantis

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  1. Reeko

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    I didn’t immediately dismiss this as satire because I could see DeSantis legit doing this
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    The Left has gone off the rails.

     
  3. Amiga

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    it's happening

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/local...ibrary-shelves-as-dcps-continues-book-review/

    Parents, however, have been surprised to find their schools’ bookshelves empty during the review process.

    “It actually blew my mind that we were living in a world where we were removing books from classrooms,” parent Brian Covey said.

    Some parents say the review came as a shock to them and their children, and they what to know when the books will be returned or replaced.



     
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    Good thing there weren't any lists on hand.
     
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    You have been here and done this exact thing multiple times before, so it's hard to have much sympathy.
     
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    Yeah, we KNOW. :rolleyes:
     
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    DeSantis' right wing rhetoric focuses on pushing Christian and anti-science agendas while pretending to be fighting for free speech and diversity of opinions. Only he can decide who or what is censored. Only he and his straight white Christian comrades can decide which books you read and what courses you take in his state. Only they can decide the vanilla version of history you are taught. It's scary. Sounds almost like something China would do. Free speech only comes from those who fit his mold. Speak against him, and you will be punished. Florida can have him, but imagining him as a leader of this country is a complete nightmare.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    I have contacted a politician, telling them I was going to write a hit piece about them, and asked them to comment?

    OK.
     
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    hysteria much
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    It's a waste of time debating a right winger who loves his right wing Governor.
     
  11. Reeko

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    School teachers in Florida have begun removing entire shelves of books from their classrooms after a new policy said they could be charged with felonies for exposing students to books that are considered “pruriant” or “offensive.”

    Earlier this month, teachers in Manatee County, Florida were sent directives from the school district to “remove or cover all classroom libraries until all materials can be reviewed” in order to comply with a new rule voted on by the Florida Department of Education, according to an internal document obtained by Motherboard.

    “I had plans to remove access to my library on Monday,” a Florida teacher in Manatee County told Motherboard on the condition of anonymity because they feared retaliation from their employer. “By 10 a.m. Monday morning, my library has been covered and made inaccessible to students as per the document.”

    Chris Guerrieri, who runs an education blog and has been a teacher at Duval County Public Schools in Florida for over two decades, says he has received dozens of messages from Florida teachers who have either received an official direction to clear out their classroom bookshelves, or have already done so in anticipation of receiving one.

    “I got an email from an art teacher who said they're making [the art teacher] get rid of [their] art books,” Guerrieri told Motherboard. “They can’t even have their books in the classroom. Like they can't just like, cover them up and put them to the side.”

    A school administrator tried to walk back the district’s directive during a school board meeting last Tuesday, insisting that teachers hadn’t actually been told to cover their shelves and leaving out any mention of the potential felony charge if a parent decided to challenge any of the books based on the new rule.

    Representatives from the School District of Manatee County did not respond to a request for comment.

    The notices follow the passage of a controversial law signed by Florida governor Ron DeSantis last year, which requires each book made available or assigned to students in schools to be selected by a school district employee who holds a valid “educational media specialist” certificate. The new rule is part of a training policy for school librarians which was recently approved by the Florida Board of Education after months of campaigning on the part of right-wing groups such as Moms for Liberty, which have strategically placed their members on school boards across the state.

    The law also creates liability for teachers who “knowingly or unknowingly” provide access to a book that is deemed harmful to a minor, allowing them to be charged with a third degree felony. According to a Florida Department of Education training document, material that is “harmful to minors” is defined as any book with depictions that “Predominantly appeal to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest” and that is “patently offensive” and “without serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.”

    How those terms are interpreted can vary greatly from one school to the next. Some groups and lawmakers are trying to expand these definitions of “harmful” to include any books with LGBTQ characters and themes.

    “We have a huge Moms For Liberty chapter in this area who would love to find a reason to target teachers who don’t buy into their fascist mentality,” the teacher from Manatee county added. “The only alternative to closing my library is going book by book to make sure each book is listed in our district library catalog. I have hundreds of books in my library. I haven’t had hours and hours to sit and do that this week. So my books remain inaccessible until I have the time to do that and remove any books that aren’t in the catalog.”


     
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    In response to the directive, Florida teachers began posting pictures and videos of their empty classroom bookshelves to personal accounts and private online groups in an effort to get the word out. Some of these posts were then shared more publicly in a Twitter thread by Willie Carver Jr., a former English teacher in Kentucky who says he left the profession last summer after witnessing firsthand the censorship efforts happening in schools in his home state.

    “I feel like we’re increasingly asking teachers to do immoral things like out students, refuse to use a student’s correct gender [and] pronouns, [exclude] Black voices or queer voices from the curriculum or not allow LGBTQ students to have equal access to books,” Carver told Motherboard.

    As Motherboard previously reported, schools in some states have enacted book bans that specifically target titles by Black and LGBTQ+ authors, which conservative politicians and groups have described as “pornographic.” When Carver saw the posts from Florida teachers with empty classroom bookshelves, he thought about the queer and transgender students he’s taught over the years, including a former trans student who had recently committed suicide.

    “That was weighing on me,” he said. “When you forbid a word or a concept to the extent that a teacher will go to prison, what you’re really doing is demonizing. You're saying to a student that what you are is so bad, your teacher would go to jail. I don’t understand how, in good conscience, people are enacting rules like this, especially when they consider the effect it will have on the children in the room.”
     
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    This feels like it is specifically done for effect. It is not required by the law.

    Leftist activists at schools creating these pictures to spark outrage amongst their base.

    Or to enable their keyboard warrior allies to try and spark outrage.

    Looks like it works.
     
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    lol...if they knowingly or unknowingly possess a book that's not allowed, they can get charged with a felony

    yeah, we know the law doesn't specifically say to remove or cover up every single book...

    it's called protecting yourself from possible charges
     
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    No, it's called ostentatively and hysterically overreacting so one can score a political point.
     
  20. Reeko

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    overreacting to possible felony charges...lol

    ok
     
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