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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

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    Talking in circles? Ironic

    The bolded part is accurate, vast majority of SEC isn’t making the NFL. Thats not taking into account the ULM, Austin Peay, Utah St cupcakes.
    Even in conference he had some bad games against LSU and Arkansas. Looked average against Texas and ULM. Damn near lost to Auburn the previous year.
    Maye had some meh games, so did Young who has more talent than any team he faces outside of Georgia.
     
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    If rumors are remotely true that Lance could be had for a 3rd, make that deal immediately. He is just as likely to be a franchise guy as any QB in this draft, has a multi-year head start, and learned in what will likely be a similar system if Ryans is coach (let alone familiarity there).

    Now imagine what we could do at the top of the draft if so. Let’s say Lance is one of our 3rds…

    1.02 Will Anderson, DE
    1.12 Michael Mayer, TE
    2.02 Jaxson Smith-Njigba, WR (maybe Zay Flowers, WR instead)
    3 (first pick) Trey Lance
    3 (CLE pick) Kayshon Boutte

    Yeah, I’m leaning Jets-centric with pointing to weapons but think about a resulting offensive core in addition to Anderson on D:

    QB - Lance
    RB - Pierce
    WR - JSN (or Flowers), Boutte, Collins
    TE - Mayer

    Even better is if you’re wrong on Lance and pick early in 2023, Williams and Maye are waiting. It’s also why I think you go more weapons heavy and bold (JSN and Boutte over Flowers and Downs) in effort to strike lightning.
     
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  3. Mr.Scarface

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    You do understand Lance is not being traded? Purdy's injury is basically the type of injury pitchers need Tommy John surgery. It could be 6 months. If it doesn't heal, surgery would put him out for a year.
     
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    Young didn't have games like Maye did in 3 of his last 4 (he lost all 4).
     
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    Keep making those excuses.
     
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    Young would have lost more in Mayes shoes.
    And you need to watch game film, Young had bad games against Texas, ULM, LSU and Arkansas
     
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    Rich.
    You make excuses galore for Stroud and Young. Who you keep saying are consensus, they would be behind Maye and Williams, that’s consensus
     
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    And only an idiot like Scarface would think winning in college means something.
    Bama and Ohio st underperformed compared to their norms. They’re expected to win.

    Scouts and GMs don’t look at wins, they look at ability. Young has skills but is the smallest QB to ever come out possibly. Stroud doesn’t have elite ability in anything. He has elite talent around him
     
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    It is probably unlikely, yes, but it is not definitive. There is also speculation today that Brady might be a mentor fit out there for Purdy for a year if they believe they’re a QB away. Yes, speculation was prior to formal UCL announcement for Purdy, but you never know.
     
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    Sorry, you are suggesting Maye is better than young upon which you lose any credibility whatsoever.
     
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    Well there was one list posted here by a guy who had ranked the qb's (at the time of their draft) over the last 5 years iirc.
    I remember Maye and Young were like 4 and 5 but were in their own separate tier which would imply something like 4a and 4b.
    In other words they were close at least to that guy!

    So to me if Maye is rated as say a 96.5 and Young is a 96.3 I don't think that's worth chancing that we will be high enough in the draft order to get Maye next year or willing to pay what it could cost to go up and get him.


    I mean Trey Lance cost three #1's and a 3!
    And he wasn't really rated that highly either, just a down year for top qb's.
    Remember at the time people weren't sure if Shanny would take Lance or Mac Jones who went like 14th or15th iirc to the Pats.

    So if we improve ANY this year and win 5, 6 or 7 games I could see a team with a pick high enough to draft Maye (or Williams, etc...) asking for something like say our 1st, 2nd and 3rd for the next 3 years and maybe even one of our better roster players!:eek:
    And they might throw in 4th and 6th's in those years so our cupboard wouldn't be totally bare.


    I just think people severely underestimate the price that will be asked for the top quarterback draft picks next year if they really are rated that highly.

    That's why if we have a chance to draft a guy we think has top-7ish potential (which I think Young does but not Stroud) we have to do it.
    Kinda like Dan Marino when he made the Super Bowl in his 2nd year.
    You think you'll be back again plenty in the future but in truth "ya nevah know!".
     
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    I’m not against Young, I like everything about him. Maye is still a better prospect just based off physical attributes.
    And you’re right, there’s no guarantee we will have the pick to draft Maye or Williams. But, if Young fails (due to frame) that could kill a new coaches long term success.
    This team isn’t going to win next year, there’s a lot of holes to fill. Just my opinion
     
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    We know.
     
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    Anonymous NFL Scout....LOL...from a Reddit post. That is your source? LOL.

    Maye did not put up better numbers than Stroud or Young in their best seasons. He has already threw more INTs than either of them did in one season.
     
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    Maye didn’t think he was better. Decommitted from Bama after Young committed. The article is the opinion of one scout.
     
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    There’s been a ton of tweets about it. That was just the first search to come up.

    Are you denying it was said? There’s several posts referencing it in these threads.
    Maye is a better prospect than any QB in this draft. We know why you don’t like that.
     
  18. cmoak1982

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    It’s been tweeted about from several scouts.
    All you have to do is look through forums.

    Maye decommited to go to UNC like his father, Young is a year above him. He didn’t de-commit after Young committed.
     
  19. Hawkeye84

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    Maye committed to Bama in 2019 before Young. And yes he decommitted because of Young. Maye committed in July and Young committed in September both in 2019


    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Drake Maye, a 6-foot-4 quarterback from Myers Park, verbally committed to Alabama on Wednesday night. Maye is a 4-star prospect who is ranked no. 107 nationally in the class of 2021.

    He is the younger brother of former UNC basketball star Luke Maye. The Tarheels had been the perceived favorite to land Drake.

    Maye led Myers Park to a 13-2 record in 2018. He threw for 3,201 yards and 36 touchdowns while only accumulating 5 interceptions. Maye also scored two touchdowns on the ground.

    Maye announced his decision to commit to Alabama on Twitter.
    https://www.highschoolot.com/myers-...mits-to-alabama-over-north-carolina/18516716/
     
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    I agree about a bad qb decision adversely affecting a teams/coaches success, not so much draft cost but years you have to devote to playing them. (also one of the reasons I'm really, REALLY wary on Trey Lance).

    That to me with Young health is the big question!
    Will he stay relatively healthy or will he turn into a "Tua".
    It's a calculated risk, but that's true of all qb's.

    I admit when I saw Young hurt his shoulder this past year I remember saying to myself "that wasn't a very hard fall at all!".
    But he has been pretty healthy other than that throughout college.
    Trying to remember how much Tua was hurt in college.


    I just remember life before DW and what it's like to NOT have a quarterback that has "it"!
    And I look at Bryce Young and to me it seems he has "it"!
    It will be VERY INTERESTING to see what DeMeco thinks/feels about the situation as I am 95% sure Caserio will go with DeMeco's desire on the matter.
     
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