If we draft a rookie QB, we will suck next year. No doubt about it. If we want to change the culture, bring in a FA quarterback and use the high picks on defensive talent. Build the fortress of talent and continue to look for diamond in the rough QBs later in the draft. The Eagles did this. The 49ers did this. The Patriots did it with Tom Brady! The quickest path to sucking for a long long time is to burn top-of-the-draft picks on QBs who are no better than what's available in the 2nd or 3rd round. And that's what Bryce Young represents. There is no Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes available in this draft. Take the sure thing -- defensive studs.
Exactly. Bryce Young is just too small to play QB with the big boys. You wouldn't draft a 6'8" center and expect them to be an NBA all-star, would you? Same principle applies here with short QBs. Availability is also a huge risk with someone as small and underweight as Bryce Young. At least Russell Wilson is thick, which helps his injury resistance.
After seeing the impact Chris Jones had yesterday and Aaron Donald has had the past 8 or 9 years I'm not so sure the bears are going to give up that 1st pick unless it's for an absolute ransom. Jalen Carter could easily have a more impactful career than say the 4th pick in this draft and a mid first rounder next year combined.
Still hasn’t been injured in the toughest conference. Can’t say that for many QBs in any conference. In addition, O’Brien said he is smartest QB he has ever coached, including Brady, as far as understanding the game and what to do with the ball in conjunction with his ability to throw the ball.
Which makes it worse, he was tripped up by a defender and fell. Still hurt his shoulder. What happens when 300+ pound guys that ate faster than him fall on him?
a) Which players represent Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes next draft? b) Separately, what are you and your advisor's draft grades on all QB's the next two drafts inside the top 5 rounds? c) Follow on from the previous question, I'd like to know who you rank in your 2nd/3rd round rankings here that would rank similar with Young or Stroud? I know you like Levis. --- Don't forget this little beauty from you and your advisors.
You mean like a bigger Jalen Hurts fell in his shoulder and missed multiple games this year? Hurts was injured in college much more than Young and yet has seemed to have survived in the NFL.
Exactly, you want a tall person to play center. So let's draft Ryan Mallet, Sean Mannion or Brock Osweiler to play You won't draft someone 6'10 to play center either right?
But we expect Maye to make the NFL transition after crapping the bed against one of the worst pass defenses in the whole country at college level and playing the majority of the season in ACC? Just trying to compare apples to apples.
You’re not comparing apples to apples. You’re comparing a freshman QB with minimal talent that was the only thing to gameplan for. Had a bad game. Did well against Oregon. Keep up the false equivalencies though
What was the average recruiting talent like in the ACC? The only team that may have recruited better than NC was Clemson. Minimal talent excuse doesn't fly. He played well against Oregon, yes, I agree. Oregon were ranked 101st and 106th in passing yards allowed per game and passing % out of 131 teams. It's actually their offense lead by Bo Nix that carried them to the 15th rank. Please explain your false equivalencies. Thanks mate.
You just ignore that under similar circumstances Young stayed healthier than Hurts throughout his college career.
You just ignore play style as well. Hurts had more designed runs, Bryce most likely won’t have an Oline that can keep pressure off him like Bama
Recruiting class doesn’t equal on field talent. In your mind Maye had the same talent as Stroud or Young? That’s the false equivalency. And before you start talking about conference differences, Big10 and Ohio St schedule was soft. Bama was top heavy and had quite a few cupcakes
Exactly what an offensive line in the NFL is supposed to do. Based on your logic, no matter who the QB is they are going to get injured so why not select the best one available. Believe me, I don’t want Young here because it will more than likely limit his opportunity at success but doesn’t change the fact he is the best QB in this class.
Stop talking circles. Not sure where or why you felt the need to bring up Stroud. Original discussion, pertaining to Young, was “vast majority of players he faced - even in the SEC - won't make the NFL, where every player is bigger, stronger & faster (not to mention, better prepared, better coached & more experienced) than virtually every single player in college.” I was stating that if that applies to Young then this definitely applies to Drake Maye, than Young who played in the SEC. Especially considering the level of quality faced, especially in conference (going back to the original conversation).
