I'm assuming it's the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...all-conspiracies/id1373812661?i=1000516933232 Great listen to a very detailed history of the origin of the book. Describes a lot of the concepts we are discussing here.
What did all these hormone charged grown women trapped in little boys bodies do in decades past? I'm guessing there used to be a lot more teen suicides before the chop shops. Kind of like peanut and gluten allergies. I can't imagine how packed ER's used to be, before we knew that a peanut or cracker existing in a room could have literally. killed. me. if I took even one step closer. Every child should have access to epi pens and doctors willing to mutilate their bodies, however their parents see fit for medical reasons (not social cache).
As opposed to "show me on the doll where Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert repeatedly molested you"?
Transgender people are mentally ill. They need therapy and I feel the government should pay for that instead of supporting kids wanting to be a different sex. It's absurd. Not normal or healthy
Hmmm seems like the tactic we used for the past century that just leads to sky high suicide rates. It's like the suicide rates for those gay conversation camps. Trying to gaslight people into being something they feel they aren't seems like a great way to increase suicide rates.
It's a mental health issue. Pretty simple. Provide counseling. I didn't mention suicide whatsoever but if someone is suicidal they require counseling. Putting a boy in a dress or telling a girl she's a boy is not normal. It's liberal garbage and unhealthy
But you are ignoring the part where that was the method of "treatment" for trans folks throughout the 20th century. And it led to some of the highest suicide rates amongst a subgroup of humans.
Throughout the 20th century? The 1910s? 20s? 50s? 80s? 90s? Why not the 19th century? Maybe you meant the 21st century? Even then, why not the 20th?
Well the mental illness help needs to be provided. I'm not arguing that it and still is inadequate because a lot of people can't afford health insurance which is a major issue. A boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. That's easy to discern. Nobody should be teaching their children otherwise. It's ridiculous. Now, once you're 21 and if you decide you want to transition, you're on your own. No money or anything else. You're an adult pay for it yourself. I won't pretend to lie and say I'd ever hand out with anyone transgender. I don't agree with it. I have gay friends though and I'm cool with that
What does therapy look like here for you? And don't tell me you aren't a psychiatrist or psychologist. You are the one making the claims that a type of therapy will help. What does that look like? If it looks like a treatment that just tells them they are their birth gender, how is that different than the past hundred years?
Then you shouldn't be in the audience? I don't like opera so I don't go or hate-watch clips from Librettos of TikTok. A family member of mine recently came out as transgender. It was surprising. This person is one of the most thoughtful, deliberate and pious people I know. They expressed the anguish throughout their life, knowing this fact about themselves, but also the fear of how their family, community and God would receive them if they knew the truth. It's taken years of reflection, prayer and therapy for them to work up the courage to come out and I cannot, for the life of me, believe they did this carelessly or because they watched too many YouTube videos. I don't pretend to understand everything they feel or have experienced, but I was honored that they trusted me enough to come out to me. They knew that I wouldn't say "you're mentally ill" as a knee-jerk indictment instead of listening and seeing them fully in front of me. I'm more moderate on this issue than you might imagine (and I agree that children should not be encouraged to make permanent changes to their body before they're adults), but I also admire the courage of somebody who comes out to a world that would flippantly tell them "you're mentally ill" instead of considering them as a full human being.
My sister is a physiologist so I do have second hand knowledge. I've never been suicidal nor depressed personally but I'd assume you'd walk the person why they are feeling like that and help them get out of a dark space. They are their birth gender. There's no if ands or buts about it. The liberal agenda is teaching kids it's cool. Then, when they are shunned by society, get depressed and kill themselves it's someone else's fault. They never received help. That's on your party. It's exactly why I put my kids in private school
I'll give you a well thought out response (since you put effort into your post and it's an issue close to home for you). This evening. I'm going to a BBQ to watch the games and I want to give you an equivalent response
You said there is a method of mental health applied to trans people in the 20th century that has led to the highest suicide rates amongst a subgroup of humans... Well, what explains the lack of those high suicide rates in any era before or during the 20th century?
Lack of reporting? Is "modern" history a more apt term or are you just being pedantic for the sake of it?
