Yeah my b on the Green Revolution deal. Got mixed up with the threads for a second. I’m not a Green fanboy, as you try to insultingly call me, I am a Rox fan who wants our 2nd overall pick to succeed, and I have eyes to see his flashes of brilliance. It’s not that complicated. And there is no need to gaslight, you for sure dislike Green. Your posts are there for all to see. It seems personal, and it is frankly weird for a grown man to have this much personal animus towards a 20-year-old kid. Try to stop insulting people who you disagree with. It doesn’t further your point, it just makes you seem like an insecure and miserable person.
Was not referring to you when I said fanboy. No offense but I don’t know who you are, we have never interacted before. I was talking about the 13 year old kid that can’t finish writing a sentence without pictures and gifs. When I call Green a bust, that’s not personal, it’s obviously relative to draft position. If he was the 16th pick why would I care? He would be a steal.
i was right about green a couple days ago… few hours before tipoff i had a feeling he was going to have a big 40pt game. was even going to post this but unfortunately was too busy that night (i’m in europe). this feeling was based off his bounce backs last season. he was thoroughly embarrassed by edwards in minny and the kid showed he’s got big balls making plays on both ends in the clutch. that mentality indicates he’s very likely going to work on that jumper and get stronger for finishing… still too early to write him off
Right about Giddey?! Sure Chad Ford, whatever you say... It's funny how I don' seem to recall you hyping Josh Giddey up pre-draft. In fact by your own admission it appears that you only took interest after Presti drafted him and upon witnessing his stellar preseason. Way to call that one, bud. Really ahead of the curve there. So were you calling Suggs a bust around summer league and yet still holding out for hope that he'd be greater than both Cade and Jalen so you could be right. Cool cool cool.
@CXbby It's your lack of context that makes you think skinned. For example using ts% to compare scoring efficiency between Mobley and Green and leaving out this context: Green: 62% of fgm unassisted Mobley: 24% of fgm unassisted Of course Mobley will have higher ts%. Most of his makes are bunnies mostly set up by the hard work of the guards doing their playmaking.
I have never compared their ts% to each other, that would be ridiculous, bigs are supposed to have higher ts% anyway since their shots are easier and more assisted. I have compared their respective ts% to their own ts% from last year to show improvement or lack there of. I repeat, improvement and trajectory is more important for young players than how actually good or bad they are.
Yeah I didn’t know much about Giddey predraft, but by the end of summerleague it was obvious Suggs wasn’t it, even though he put up decent numbers, and by the end of preseason after I actually got to see Giddey play it was apparent that he was special. Presti is a guru, proven once again this year - Jalen William - who will be the better Jalen between the two teams.
Edit: fair enough But don't you think his increase in ts% is from also his change from his rookie season to sophomore season in unassisted fgm from 33% to 24%? He actually dropped his self creation makes this season. For someone like Green dropping it is good because his shot selection needs more easier looks but for someone like Mobley who needs to show progress in self creation to reach that superstar level you would hope he would increase his unassisted fgm rate right?
fair enough But don't you think his increase in ts% is from also his change from his rookie season to sophomore season in unassisted fgm from 33% to 24%? He actually dropped his self creation makes rate this season by a decent amount. For someone like Green dropping it is good because his shot selection needs more easier looks as his unassisted makes rate is higher than primary ball handlers like LaMelo but for someone like Mobley who needs to show progress in self creation to reach that superstar level you would hope he would increase his unassisted fgm rate right?
Mobley has dropped because of addition of Donovan. Green’s increased because of loss of Wood. Also I was not comparing the two to show how much Mobley has improved, as I stated, Mobley has NOT taken the leap, only improved marginally. It’s just that he was already very good for a rookie (a positive) and now slightly better. Where as Green was very bad, and now slightly better. Green NEEDS to take the leap since he started off so low. You could argue Mobley is in a much better situation, which would be fair. As I said my counter would be Sengun, who has transcended environment and misuse. Green would have done the same if he was great.
Sengun also has multiple years of pro experience that helps with consistency. Green's highs are higher than Sengun but his lows are way worse than Sengun. That's in indictive of someone with a lack of pro experience or at least D1 program experience that teaches team concepts. Green didn't start "low". The guy drafted ahead of him in his rookie year had to take 3 more attempts to just march the same exact scoring outpit of Green. Can be seen by the 5% difference in ts% between the two. Green was first team all rookie and showed tremendous progress mid season.
People seem to think I “hate” Green because “I want to be right”. When you give your opinion on prospects as often as I do, you will be wrong plenty of times, like here with Suggs, which I admitted very early on. I have zero problems admitting it. Except with Jalen, you guys are the ones desperately wanting to be right and having a panic attack at every skeptical view.
A 2nd year averaging 20 pts is not a bust. Man doesn't even have a proper pg or a coach and is able to do his job which is to score. Of course sengun shows the most improvement on this sht team hence folk consider him the best on the team.
Dude nobody cares about your predictions. Everyone's right or wrong sometimes, you are just really annoying because your entire persona on this issue is about how right you are about Mobley and Green 2 years later like it was some revelation to predict Mobley over Green when most of the world had them as 2/3 coin flip. Also nobody really cared that you wanted to drink semen or whatever on Green predictions, you brought it all of that for some odd reason. Just give it a rest already
I don’t give a sht about Mobley. I’m disappointed in Green, is that allowed? Again with this “I’m right” bullsht. Stop projecting. I don’t care who is right, I just care when the #2 pick plays like crap. Or am I obligated to ride his nuts all day like the rest of you?
