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Monterey Park Shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Jan 23, 2023.

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    If you'd asked me to name the place least likely for a mass shooting in the USA, off the top of my head I might have chosen Half-Moon Bay. Haven't spent THAT much time there, but its a sleepy little isolated tiny out of the way beach town.
     
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    Half moon
    Half Michael
    Bay
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    Ironically in the last few years there have been more purchases and more training of Asians in things like firearms because of the spate of attacks in Asians.

    I agree a firearm ban is impractical. It will likely make things worse as those “from my cold dead hands” people would like use their weapons in response to an attempt to take their weapons. As always though we need laws that emphasize responsibility. People with histories of mental illness and criminality shouldn’t be getting firearms. People who do not store and secure their weapons properly should be held responsible for crimes committed with those weapons.

    Law abiding firearms owners should be pushing for more responsibility and accountability in firearms rathe than opposing even very mild standards.
     
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    Like a lot of places they is just the surface impression. This didn’t happen in Half Moon Bay itself but in the fields around it. There is poverty and hardship among those who work the fields. The Bay Area is incredibly wealthy with expensive property but it also has a lot of agriculture growing things like strawberries and garlic. Those farm workers are even more squeezed now.
     
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    Dumb thing to say for someone with presidential aspirations.
     
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    piecing together all the reportings by local news outlets.

    he used to frequent the dance almost on a daily basis.
    he volunteered as a dance instructor there; his ex-wife was one of his students.
    according to his ex-wife, he was ill-tempered, but never violent. he had work as a truck driver.
    he used to own a home in San Gabriel, a LA suburb much less affuent than Monterey Park.
    around 2010, he sold his home and moved into a senior community in Hemet, in the Inland Empire some 50 miles north east of San Gabriel.
    ~ 2012, he went to the local Sheriff station ~~ Hemet and complained that his family had tried to defraud / poison him; the sheriffs asked him to provide evidence, which he never did.

    authorities obtained a search warrant to search his home in Hemet. indications are that he had probably made the illegal gun there
     
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    Were these legally purchased weapons or did they buy them illegally
    from the hood ?
     
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    From what I'm hearing in the Monterey Park shooting is that the shooter assembled them himself.
     
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    It's the handguns and automatic weapons. Only hunting weapons allowed. All others need to be banned. So far we are averaging bout 1/2 mass shootings per day.
    Make the gun industry pay the full cost of guns. Healthcare, including psych, lost wages, burials, rehab, disability payment.

    BS assertions that it is impractical are empty excuses.
     
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    You can always find a way to get weapons especially in Los Angeles
    I guess this dude felt the dance studio ‘dishonored’ him or ‘lost face’ so he went postal

    it’s also interesting that normal woke anti gun mob isn’t here on your thread
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    Must not count if it didn’t happen in Texas or Florida
    Or the Timberwolves were in town so they had to gun themselves to the floor

    California has strict gun laws but it’s not hard to find illegal guns , woke Bernie sanders fans can’t understand this , they don’t know the hood or internet
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    With so many firearms out there and so many firearm owners do you really think that Law Enforcement could enforce the bans you are talking about?
     
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    I'm sure he had his reasons for doing so. People get pissed off and feel they 'lost face' everyday. That's motive not excuse.

    My understanding of CA law is that even making such weapons is against the law. But yes there is a major problem to ease of access to firearms even illegal ones. That goes to every state.
     
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    There’s significant gang activity in California and drug trafficking
    It’s very easy to get illegal goods
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    woke people forget Boyz in the Hood and Blood in Blood out and American me were about California
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    Woke vegans gluing themselves to save chickens are white meat so they don’t know a thing about the hood
    None of them know where the hood is
     
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    Don’t forget the vineyards
     
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    The proper way to do it is the same way they did full auto weapons with the NFA. It'll take a hundred years but you squeeze on the production end and wait for "current invrntory" to get worn all to hell and become trash.

    It would be glacial, but thats what would enable it to occur without generating violence.

    100 years ago you could walk into a sporting goods store and get a Thompson off the shelf with no ID required for a MSRP of $225.

    Fourty years ago, genuine Tommy Guns were kind of sparce, but you could buy a knock off, new production "tube gun" MP40 for a few hundred bucks and they were always making more, but it took six months and hours of work to get the paperwork through.

    At this point. I'm not 100%, but guessing the same gun would go for $10k, if you could find someone willing to sell.

    The reason there are so many illegal guns, is becuase there are so many legal guns and gun parts to steal/divert. Squeze the supply, and it will start to clean up the issue. But you need to take a long, multi-generational view on it.
     
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    you would think
     
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    Good post and agree that any major change will likely be slow and glacial. This really has to come down to a cultural change. I would like to think that our culture could change to the point that we don't want so many firearms and we don't fetishize firearms like we do. Instead in the last few years we've seen firearm sales skyrocket.
     
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    tell that to Compton, CALIFORNIA
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