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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/flori...iticism-rejecting-ap-african-american-studies

    Florida rejected an Advanced Placement (AP) African American Studies course because it contained elements of critical race theory and "Black Queer Studies," according to a document shared with Fox News Digital detailing the concerns identified by the Florida Department of Education (DOE).

    Florida Commissioner of Education Manny Diaz, Jr. also tweeted a graphic that detailed six particular lessons outlined in the syllabus that did not comply with Florida law or the state's education standards.

    "Despite the lies from the Biden White House, Florida rejected an AP course filled with Critical Race Theory and other obvious violations of Florida law," Diaz tweeted. "We proudly require the teaching of African American history. We do not accept woke indoctrination masquerading as education."

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    "As we’ve said all along, if College Board decides to revise its course to comply with Florida law, we will come back to the table," he added.

    The Florida DOE rejected the AP course because they believe it lacked educational value and historical accuracy, according to a letter sent to the College Board. The College Board is a nonprofit organization that seeks to expand access to higher education. The course contains tenets of critical race theory (CRT) and elements of queer theory, according to a copy of the syllabus obtained and reviewed by Fox News Digital.

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    "As presented, the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value," the DOE rejection letter said. "In the future, should College Board be willing to come back to the table with lawful, historically accurate content, (the education department) will always be willing to reopen the discussion."

    Bryan Griffin, press secretary to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, said the state's classrooms "will be a place for education, not indoctrination."

    "As submitted, the course is a vehicle for a political agenda and leaves large, ambiguous gaps that can be filled with additional ideological material, which we will not allow," Griffin said.

    One of the lessons titled "Intersectionality and Activism," "examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought."

    "Intersectionality is foundational to CRT, and ranks people based on their race, wealth, gender and sexual orientation," the Florida DOE stated.

    Suggested readings include "Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence Against Women of Color" by Kimberlé Crenshaw, who developed the framework for critical race theory and coined the term "intersectionality," according to the Association of American Law Schools. Other reading "may" include text from the writings of "self-avowed Communist and Marxist" Angela Davis.

    Another section, titled "Black Queer Studies … explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis."

    Suggested readings include texts by Roderick Ferguson who believes "We have to encourage and develop practices whereby queerness isn’t a surrender to the status quos of race, class, gender and sexuality," the Florida DOE wrote. "It means building forms of queerness that reject the given realities of the government and the market."

    One lesson called the "Movements for Black Lives," would study the "origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement and the Movement for Black Lives." The Movement for Black Lives is an organization that aims to eliminate prisons and jails, ending pretrial detention and conclude "the war on Black trans, queer, gender non-conforming, and intersex people," the Florida DOE explained.

    "We believe and understand that Black people will never achieve liberation under the current global racialized capitalist system," the Movement for Black Lives states on its website.

    Students could be responsible for examining the works of scholars like Leslie Kay Jones who wrote, that "Every day, black people produce an unquantifiable amount of content for the same social media corporations that reproduce the white supremacist superstructures that oppress us," the Florida DOE highlighted.

    The section "Black Feminist Literary Thought," includes readings by intersectionality author, Bell Hooks, who stated that he started using the phrase "white supremacist capitalist patriarchy" because he "wanted to have some language that would actually remind us continually of the interlocking systems of domination that define our reality."

    The Florida DOE said a lesson about "The Reparations Movement," was not up to their standards because "All points and resources in this study advocate for reparations" which provides "no critical perspective or balancing opinion in this lesson."

    The last topic highlighted by was a section titled "Black Study and Black Struggle in the 21st Century" which included readings by Robin D.G. Kelley who "argues that activism, rather than the university system, is the catalyst for social transformation."

    "Kelley’s first book was a study of Black communists in Alabama," the Florida DOE said. "Kelley warns that simply establishing safe spaces and renaming campus buildings does nothing to overthrow capitalism."

    The course also "explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality through scholarly text" by authors like Eduardo Bonilla Silva whose book "Racism Without Racists," "documents how, beneath our contemporary conversation about race, there lies a full-blown arsenal of arguments, phrases, and stories that whites use to account for—and ultimately justify—racial inequalities," according to its description.

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    The College Board said the course is in development and being piloted at 60 high schools across the U.S., before it is expanded nationwide by 2025, according to its website. The course has been in development for more than a decade with the help of "college faculty and teachers across the country" whose "expertise and experience" will provide the basis for "an evidence-based introduction to African American studies."

    "Like all new AP courses, AP African American Studies is undergoing a rigorous, multi-year pilot phase, collecting feedback from teachers, students, scholars and policymakers," the College Board said in a statement to Fox News Digital. "The process of piloting and revising course frameworks is a standard part of any new AP course, and frameworks often change significantly as a result."

    The College Board said it plans to publicly release the updated course framework when it is completed, "well before" it is widely available in U.S. high schools.
     
  2. Colt45

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    Yeah, we KNOW. :rolleyes:
     
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    I respect your opinions and you have always struck me as a very good person - but it isn't clear cut at all that the effort from BOTH sides isn't to censor and erase history. In fact, it is pretty clear to me that IS the case by some on both sides.

    We have those on the left trying to have Mark Twain removed from school curriculum. We have people that want to remove any reference to Washington, Jefferson and oddly, Adams from street names and banks........ on the right we have people wanting to remove the contributions and history of gay people and other marginalized groups.

    The left judges historical figures with ZERO historical context or understanding....... and the right acts as if the entirety of history involved white men.

    It just gets really old and tiring.
     
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    It's interesting how rejecting some of this indoctrination supposedly makes the Florida Governor and his experts in the Department of Education fascists, Nazis, racists.

    So much framing going on here.

    People just read the headlines and jump to conclusions.

    There is clearly a systematic effort to use things like "climate change" or African-American studies to sneak in radical socialist indoctrination.

    DeSantis and his government are merely pushing back on that.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    When I showed you video evidence of someone in a hiring role openly saying he is trying to shut them out, you dismissed it based on the source of the news, even though the guy explicitly said it. Not sure how you can even argue it's out of context or edited or whatever. He simply flat out said it.
     
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    Anything from Veritas isn't explicit or clear at all. Editing can do all sorts of things. Anyone who discriminates based on religion, or politics (including against leftists) should be removed from that position.

    I work and have worked in education including being a member of hiring committees and interact with people from across the nation who are responsible for hiring. It is absolutely not common place.
     
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    So anyone trying to remove Twain is censoring and ignorant. Yes, you are correct there have been some that have tried to have reference to different historical figures from education. In the case of liberal activists doing it, they are a minority. I understand that you said 'some'. In most cases of conservative activists are also a minority that have little chance of implementing it, However, there have been some cases where they have succeeded.

    I 100% agree with you about context needing to be implemented in teaching history. The sad thing is that would further illustrate the point the leftist activists wish to make rather than damage it. Teaching the context would show how far we've gone in enlightenment and more importantly, reflect the situation at a certain point in history. We already have the context provided by those who were in power at the time, and adding the context of those who were the targets of those in power and oppressed.

    Specifically regarding statues and names on buildings and parks the issue is honoring those names. The movement to remove them from museums doesn't really have much traction of which I'm aware.
     
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    Yes, poor whitey just can't win. We see the evidence of that everywhere. LOL
     
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    pretty spot on
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    Where is the issue? We do realize this is an elective for high school students and an AP class right?
     
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    Always highly annoys me when someone finds one black person saying something like this as if it invalidates the experiences of every other black person.

    It's such a bland tweet that is basically saying "We shouldn't call anything racist" and removes all context of previous discussions on the topic because he doesn't wish to engage in those topics.

    It would be simple to show how each of those things could be racism, with historical examples even.

    It amazes me people are moved by such simple arguments.
     
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    I didn't even look at the profile pic of the person making the tweet. The strength of the argument made should decide, not the color of the skin of the people saying it.

    I agree with what this guy said, with one caveat that you rightly point out:

    Of course there is actual racism by white people, and that should be called out/fought anytime and anywhere.

    But his point is still valid, there are people out there (woke people) who will brand white people racists no matter what they do. And that's actually racist in itself.
     
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    These people are abject grifters. Their rhetoric is extremely simplistic and just repeated over and over and the only reason right wingers listen to them it's because they are the few black people selling their dignity for some social media clout.
     
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    Yes I believe that is the bubbled media you consume is telling you.

    However that isn't a reflection of reality.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    But this has to stop. There are people out there that think we should genocide black people and jewish people and gay people. I could drag up tweets and social media posts about it too pretty easily and frame it as some large movement.

    We have to stop discussing topics based on what some radical does, when people are framing complex conversations based on the opinions of radicals they are doing it to manipulate you.

    I hate to use the term 'Both sides' but yes, both sides do this, but if some rando on twitter is calling someone a racist that should not turn into some political discussion about the term 'racist' and instead should be about that person's opinion.

    If the person has no position in society where they are making decisions we really shouldn't be all that worried about their random opinions.

    If it's a group of people organized and moving as one, yes, but despite what you believe there is no 'woke' mob. The 'wokesters' you people imagine don't move as one, they disagree on a bevy of things and fight amongst themselves just like any other group of people
     
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    Oh looking at this guys timeline 100% a grifter.

    Black so he can say "Racism doesn't exist!" daily (which it looks like he does) and a 'Doctor' so he can also rant about the vaccines too.

    Lord bless him, I hope he's getting paid well for it at least.
     
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    The more and more ATW spams these links as guys he listens to for his ideology while also saying he's a CEO/ entrepreneur, the more and more I think he has a garage full of Amway products he can't sell and his "business trips" are MLM sales conferences.

    This poster is ****ing stupid.
     
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    The algorithm made it show up in my Twitter feed, I don't follow the guy.
     
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    The algorithms are frying your brain.
     

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