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Sengun - going all in, would ya?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 19, 2023.

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Should the Rockets go all in and build around Sengun

Poll closed Feb 9, 2023.
  1. Yes

    54 vote(s)
    61.4%
  2. No

    22 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Make him 6th man

    12 vote(s)
    13.6%
  1. CircaSurvive

    CircaSurvive Member

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    Scola's game was 90% midrange jumpers and actually had the "below average athleticism" you try to put on Sengun, just ****ing lol at that comparison.
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    One of the three basic Mexican lies.
     
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  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Not really when you've started a bunch of threads with dubious timing. You've been pretty vocal about your opinion so I'm not sure why you are hiding from it now. This is a forum so you are free to post what you want, but so am I as I clearly think your intentions are more about individual players or the team.

    Sengun isn't Scola. I'm not really sure why you dismiss the playmaking of Sengun.
     
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  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Sengun's best comp is Scola....if Luis came into the NBA with these kids he would be putting up 30 a night as the focal point...and giving up 30 on D, just like Sengun and the rest.

    DD
     
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  5. Zen Tabak

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    Scola's career high for blocks per game was 0.6.

    For rebounds, 8.5.

    For points, 18.

    Sengun is likely to beat all all of those marks this year. He's a much better rim protector that Scola and his passing is already far superior to Scola's.

    I wouldn't triple down on that comparison, personally
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    Scola played with Yao Ming and Tmac he was never the focal point.

    DD
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    But he wouldn't be able to be a playmaker for others......

    And again, this is a stupid thread meant to denigrate Sengun by proposing we should either build around him or not. It's such a stupid thing to suggest at this point, but you have your reasons.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    yes he would.....but whatever.

    The thread is off track, the points are still valid, in order to build around Sengun you need to retool this roster big time.

    DD
     
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  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Nope, that was never part of Scola's game, so stop lying.

    The point of this thread by you was to propose a scenario in order to denigrate Sengun.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    The purpose of this thread was to generate discussion about what it would take to build around Sengun, and the change in roster presentation we would need to do.

    Everything I said about Sengun is true, he is an elite low post scorer, but that can easily be stopped, look at the 4th quarter tonight, he needs a FT jumper, a 3pt shot and he needs a lot of help on defense because he is not the best athlete.

    There is no malice in saying that, you have to know that when you make the decision to go all in on Sengun.

    Here is a great example of how he needs help on D, he is just not quick enough to guard the rim consistently.




    DD
     
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  11. CHAMPBOY

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    Scola was a nice role player, Sengun is a Star. Sengun is being doubled by every team, Scola would never be double teamed.
     
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  12. maj21

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    We think the same way, DD. I was listening to you on RW yesterday and everything you said were facts. Everyone only thinks about offense and not defense, which is why we’re still losing! Scoring all these points doesn’t mean **** if you can’t stop anybody!
     
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  13. Hemingway

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    I’m probably older than you at 65, you are underrating a 20 year old Sengun. Scold was an awful defensive player. They both had great interior moves. Sengun is a better passer, better rebounder, and better shot blocker. He will continue to add muscle and become a much better defensive player. If Sengun had been playing 30+ mins this year with the offense running through him all year he’d be a candidate for the all star game. Once he develops a three and the confidence to shoot it he will be a huge force on the offensive side of the ball. Putting DMO in his category is ridiculous.
     
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    He can easily be stopped? Posted in the game thread the assistant coaches interview at halftime on what they were going to do to stop Anfernee. They gameplanned to do just that. As much as I love Luifa, nobody gameplanned for him. They gave Sengun the Yao treatment.
    Speaking of Luifa I saw this in my timeline yesterday from Manu, just Luifa recounting when he knew it was time to hang it up (seeing Giannis). I, too, often reference that Scola team post big Yao on how a team can be really good defensively without having 'rim protectors'.


     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    Nope. It was meant to denigrate Sengun and take a shot at SOF.

    I agree they are annoying but so are you with these types of posts. At least be honest about it and stopping lying.
     
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  16. chenjy9

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    He can’t help it. His whole shtick is to move goal posts and spin lies and half truths. When that fails, he calls folks small minded or shortsighted while preaching community unity. It’s pretty hilarious watching the crap he constantly peddles out. Then again, the DD curse didn’t come out of nowhere. LOL
     
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  17. DatRocketFan

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    Man is one of the biggest hypocrite on the site. Imagine he created the thread preaching patience for kpj and then a thread to trade green.
     
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  18. xaos

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    Gets 30, gives up 30

    Let's go out of our way to build around a net neutral guy
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Net neutral?



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  20. xaos

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    I don't think he is a net neutral. I'm mocking the idea that DD believes he is a net neutral and then proceeds to think building around a net neutral player is a good idea.
     

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