Man tells homeless woman to move off the street she said no so he sprays her with a water hose

Small business owners get away with skirting legal protections for employees due to their small number. It's actually more common to be treated like **** as an employee in a small business than a large one as a large business has more stringent labor laws to protect employees from greedy "entrepreneurs".

Another aspect of their entitlement. They get to treat their workers like **** and in most cases do.

 

I'm torn on this one.

You say "call the police", but it is clearly the city's policy that the police does nothing in these cases.

San Francisco's city government is responsible for this problem.

 

How many times do you contact the authorities? Because by all accounts from him and neighbors, they have collectively reported this homeless woman multiple times for city services or harassing/being a danger to others. The city decided to ignore their pleas because this incident happens hundreds of times daily all over San Francisco. So what is the solution for the citizens being harmed by the homeless woman?

 

Many many people are responsible for this problem including upper middle class and wealthy property owners and their voting positions the past few decades like on prop 13

 

Don't know what universe you're shopping in but every small business I patronize has very happy employees.

 

Less protections, more centralized egos etc. Large corporations, you have HR teams, federal and state legal protections etc. You often are shielded by the narcissism and ego of the top executives.

Small businesses operate more like a authoritarian regimes due to less middle management and professional HR teams.

So that means you probably see the two extreme ends with small businesses due to how work culture is dictated by one human, the direct owner and his or her ability to check their narcissism and ego. So you could have the most pleasant experience or the worst experience being an employee of a small business purely from the behavior of the owner.

 

In this situation (that the government wouldn't do anything), what's your proposed solution to the homeless woman on the sidewalk? To allow her to continue loitering and harassing patrons and the business?

 

Yes. What is "harassing" In this sense? How many people are threatened by a fragile old lady?

Actions speak louder than people's testimonials. That video told me she's very docile. She treated being hosed like a champ AND she willingly wanted to NOT press charges. Obviously it's not her decision but this tells me who the bigger ******* is.

 

So you're ok with homeless people loitering around businesses. As a patron, would you want to patronize a business that was surrounded by homeless people?

 

And what's the alternative then, large businesses? As you note large businesses have more stringent requirements but I've yet to hear a lot of praise about how Amazon and Walmart are treating their employees.

With a small businesses you have a more personal relationship with the owner and it's easier to change jobs from small businesses. That is one of the problems facing small businesses especially food service right now that there is so much turnover among work staff.

He doesn't own the sidewalk but neither does she. There is an expectation in society that we abide by social norms and that there is social responsibility. I find this an odd argument for a "leftist" to make consider how often Leftists criticize those on the right for opposing social norms and saying that individuals freedom trumps social good.

Understandably this lady is mentally ill. She should be getting treatment in someplace that is safe for her. While I can agree hosing her down is cruel and excessive but just leaving her be isn't good for the community or her.

 

Social norms... Man we talking about a old lady with mental health issues who's homeless.

Social norms my ass.

You know what isn't a social norm? Hosing down a homeless old lady who can't do anything back at you.

 

Also just to add another thing. I find this argument criticizing small businesses odd from someone who claims to support the disadvantaged. Small businesses are the main entry for most disadvanteged groups, particularly immigrant groups, to build wealth. Throughout US history discriminated against ethnic groups have built up communities based around small businesses often because large businesses and governments wouldn't cater or help them. That was Black Wall Street and the Harlem Rennaissance was built. That was how Chinatowns survived. That is how recent Somalis are now building wealth and getting integrated into the US.

 

And what is your answer just leave her on the street? Do you think leaving the mentally ill homeless is really the answer?
and note I did say hosing her down was excessive and cruel.

 

Awesome deflection.

 

Lol that is miniscule compared to the group of Americans who benefited from the suburban housing boom right after WW2 where those same homes rapidly increased in value creating excess capital for underachieving high school educated people create these businesses and have a inflated sense of ego.

Look at the MAGA boating incident of 2020. That group of people are the poster child of the typical small business American entrepreneur.

 

Not hose her?

Why are you taking the claims of a man at face value to heart who is willing to bose down a defensive old homeless lady?


Of course he's going to curate a story about sincerely wanting to help her first. That's called public relations or saving face.

 

Sure a lot of Americans did benefit from that but as you've pointed out before redlining prevented many from benefitting from that. How else though are marginalized groups denied those benefits going to build up an economy without small businesses?

Again this seems a very bizzarre argument given your background that you are literally arguing for large businesses and accusing small businesses of being the entitled spoiled ones. Are you really going to side with Kroger over the Tienda?

What does the MAGA boating incident have to do with anything we're discussing? Do you know for a fact that most of those people were small business owners?

 

Siding with what ever environment has more legal protections to not **** over workers

Upper middle class Trump supporters who own small yachts and boats? Ya they were small business owners and the type who believe they created something from nothing. You know, the crowd that got offended when Obama said "You didn't build that by yourself".

 

Just to add for those not familiar with codes. Yes small businesses can get away with some less stringent requirements regarding things like health care and other benefits for employees that large businesses cannot (that is why so many large businesses hire contractors) that doesn't mean they get away with all regulations. Things like the American with Disability Acts apply to all public businesses. Health codes apply to all public businesses. Civil Rights protections apply to all businesses. A business of five people the owner cannot sexually harrass employees and cannot demand they work overtime without pay.