KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

I do not think many will whine if we start winning.

 

Honestly it is more simple than that......they shut up as soon as KPJ started making shots efficiently......

DD

 

Yea it would require getting a better PG option unless TyTy turns out to be really good. I wish they would give the minutes they are giving Christopher with KPJ out to TyTy to see how well he does.

 

It will be interesting to see how well KPJ and Sengun play together sharing playmaking responsibility when KPJ comes back now that Sengun is becoming more established getting more minutes. How well that works will give us a potential glimpse of the future.

 

For real - have you not noticed the better flow and more movement in the offense without KPJ? It’s not about his shooting and never fully was.

Don’t you remember the Francis era? Not all assists are created equally and just because you’re skilled and can dribble/penetrate does not make you a point guard.

I’m not a believer in KPJ off the ball because he needs it to get his flow going. I’m not a believer in KPJ on ball because he doesn’t get other people going.

he’s had one really solid game where his two man game with Sengun was nice. But if you watched that game - off ball movement still sucked.

 

Yes, I do see the ball popping around more and others getting more touches.

You know what else I see - the EXACT SAME RESULTS on offense and defense. Literally no difference - so what you are telling me is you like that style, which I do as well.

But as a bottom line person - that is results oriented I don't care what I like as long as the results are there, so far, neither with KPJ or without have been any different in results.

Actually the defense has been way worse without KPJ....weird cause he isn't that good on D.

DD

 

Career highs are being hit without kpj at pg yet we still lose. Imagine how much better we would b with a real pg.

 

Ok mr bottom line .

which approach over time will yield better and more improved results? The one that gets everyone involved and becomes harder to defense? Or the one that may yield a solid 10 wins a year and leads to Eric Gordon having no fun.

and to be clear mr bottom line - we have 10 wins this season.

this season.

with KPJ playing the majority.

it’s been, what, 4 games without? Isn’t that still relatively on pace with our total?

 

Ah, that is a good question, I believe that what you should do is coach KPJ to push the ball and to move it more - we need a strong coach, and if he embraces that we get the best of both worlds.

We get the ball movement we desire and we get his ISO abilities when things break down late.....win win.

Honestly it is hard to judge anyone with Silas being such a horrendous coach.


DD

 

again - I’ll reference Francis. If you remember - we were the worst fast break team because Francis just couldn’t push pace. Multiple coaches tried and it failed. He was a guy that could break someone down and if he didn’t get to the bucket he kicked it out and hoped for the assist.

there are so many similarities with KPJ.

and I don’t like Silas all that much either - but sounds like Stone is forcing the KPJ at point issue.

I would much rather take the balance of the year to develop Greens skills on ball. While it’s not where I think he lands long term - he sure flashes much stronger creation ability.

 

Yeah I’ve been saying move Green to PG for a while.

The way I see it. Right now we have two not so good combo guards. If we switch KPJ and Green’s position, we may still have a not so good combo guard at PG position, but at least KPJ can be a very good shooting guard with less iso and more catch and shoot. Can’t be worse than what we have right now.

 

Will KPJ cut and move off ball? Will his entitled attitude be ok with the move? Will his defensive effort improve?

I hear what you’re saying and it’s what we need to try - I’m just not in the camp that believes in KPJ. And while Dada might say I’m judging him for his past - I’d say I’m judging him for his attitude.

 

Very unlikely to see someone who outright declares himself the leader/head honcho unprompted will decide to step aside and be more of a team player but stranger things have happened.

 

Yeah, let's bring Jalen off the bench when he's working well with Sengun to placate a bum like KPJ who absolutely no team wants. Makes a ton of sense to our resident village idiots who are literally wrong about everything

 

Lets trade our promising 2nd year for an actual pg to move kpj to his natural position after wasting 2.5 years of bashing other posters with the stance that kpj is a good pg.

It's as dumb as asking patience for the kpj experiment just to push trading our youngster 1.5 season into his career.

 

To me there never should have been a KPJ experiment. He's a guy who can get points off the bench. That's it. There's a reason why no other team in the league wanted him. He's a me first player who can only lose you games. Complete garbage

 

If he can’t accept the role change, all the more reason to get rid of him.

If he can’t handle a position change now, imagine what will happen if we fire Silas and get a no-nonsense head coach who won’t hesitate to yank them after a mental lapse?

 

Nah the kpj pg experiment i was okay with instead of wall playing. The problem is that after it looks bad instead of addressing it, the franchise stubbornly pushed forward with it hindering the other youngsters.

 

I'd rather Wall played. He at least knows how to rum PG. If it didn't work then you could do exactly what they did anyways and curb him. Everyone outside of our gm and coaching staff knew KPJ was garbage. He's been that his entire career. They took away valuable minutes trying to "redeem " garbage. You take the trash out. You don't let it sit in your house

 

Jalen Green doesn't have the ability to play PG, he is a horrible dribbler...all you have to do is pressure him a little and he turns it over.

KPJ is a much better ball handler, but is not a great PG......we are stuck without one atm.

DD