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Eric Gordon Trades

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. anchel

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    Yep, we need to change the culture...
    Also a defensive PG... Lets bring back Harden.
    Lol. The laughing stock of the league.
     
  2. riko

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    These writers write stupid ****. Maybe as coaches. That era is over. Say if Gordon doesn't get traded, his contract will be expiring and he will just sign with a team next season. All this stupid **** will be put to rest. He could just go play with Sixers on 2 year and Harden can reup again. There probably going to do more trades around Harden and Embiid, and or sign some more people.
     
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    So, how does a 3- team trade look? How did they have it structured?

    Here is how I might do it. Throw in minor picks or filler as needed.

    Here’s how a 4-team trade could look.
     
  6. J.R.

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    TL;DR: Nothing to see here.

    Iko: Late last month, our Shams Charania reported on a potential solution for both parties. Per Shams, the Suns offered a proposal to send Crowder to Milwaukee, draft compensation and salary filler to Houston and Eric Gordon and/or Kenyon Martin Jr. to Phoenix.

    Shams reported four Bucks second-round picks and players would head to Houston. So, something like this.

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    Eric Nehm (Bucks beat writer): So, the first hurdle to a deal like this would be getting Wesley Matthews to agree to a deal. (He is one of three players on the roster, along with Jevon Carter and Serge Ibaka, who cannot be traded without giving their consent to a deal because of the nature of their one-year contracts.) After clearing Matthews’ no-trade clause of sorts, I think the Bucks would not be interested in making this deal.

    First, the Bucks believe Matthews still has something left in the tank, which is why they are managing his minutes this season for a potential playoff run. Second, that is too many second-round picks.

    This could be me wanting to play negotiator and have a little bit of fun with the situation, but…if I am Bucks general manager Jon Horst, why would I be willing to give up four second-round picks for Crowder? He has been on the trade block for the entire season and hasn’t been moved yet. So, why should I put four second-round picks into the deal?

    Iko: …This might get a bit crazy, so stay with me and let me explain. I think it helps all parties.

    Houston took Tari Eason at No. 17 but make no mistake, MarJon Beauchamp was a serious target for the Rockets leading up to the draft. A legit one. Had he still been on the board at 29, he would be in a Houston jersey. Trading away Martin, 22, would hurt some from a rebuilding standpoint but getting Beauchamp would be welcomed. He fits the mold of young players they want on board.

    Torrey Craig and Dario Saric might not be in town for long but they would provide some veteran leadership in the locker room, which is desperately needed right now. The draft capital is nice too, a future first from Phoenix and Portland’s 2024 second-round pick which could be decent.

    For Phoenix, they rid themselves of the Crowder mess and swap Saric and Craig for Gordon and Grayson Allen. The former pair are great shooters — both flirting with 40 percent from deep on decent volume — but Allen is, too. Gordon is still shooting 36 percent from distance on five attempts per night, despite Houston’s offensive mess.

    Milwaukee adds Crowder, a tough-nosed 3-and-D combo forward who can play in closing lineups and Martin, an athletic, smart low-usage wing.

    So, am I crazy? Or could there be something there?

    Nehm: While Beauchamp is three months older than Martin, he is in the first year of his rookie contract with the Bucks. This is Martin’s third year in the NBA and, if the Bucks would trade for him, he has one more year on his rookie contract before the Bucks would need to give him an extension. Martin might be more prepared for playoff action than Beauchamp since he has been in the NBA longer, but having more years of team control might be more important to the Bucks than getting another big body on the wing like Martin.

    And Martin might not be the best fit for the Bucks’ offense either. He can absolutely bring more size and athleticism to the roster, but he is shooting just 32.5 percent from 3 on low volume, so he might not be a great fit in lineups with Giannis Antetokounmpo, which is the most important thing for any player joining the Bucks.

    On top of that, the Bucks really like Beauchamp. They had not used a first-round pick since 2018 when they selected Donte DiVincenzo and they used the pick on Beauchamp. They could have used the pick for a cap-clearing move like they have in the past or tried to trade for a proven player, but instead they selected Beauchamp. So, I don’t think this is going to work either.

    Nehm: At this point, I’m not sure the Bucks need to give up all that much to get Crowder because I’m not sure there are any other beat writers at The Athletic going through this same exercise. I’m not sure there is a robust market for Crowder. I’m honestly not even sure of the need to give up Allen to get him, but I’d suspect offers might become slightly more desperate as the trade deadline approaches.

    So, is there a three-team deal out there that sees the Bucks give up:
    • Grayson Allen
    • One or two second-round picks
    • Some combination of Nwora, Hill and Serge Ibaka (who shared discontent with his role with Gigantes del Basket on Jan. 7 before missing the Bucks’ road trip for personal reasons) to make salaries work

    If there isn’t a three-team deal and the price for Crowder is seemingly as low as it appears, the Bucks might just be able to get something done with the Suns without involving the Rockets.

    While Allen might not be the big wing the Suns want back in return for Crowder, Allen is a great shooter at the shooting guard spot. He might not be able to defend the Jayson Tatums and Jaylen Browns of the world, but that doesn’t disqualify him from being a quality player who can contribute positively to a championship run.
     
  7. TimDuncanDonaut

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    This one is intriguing; I would probably do.
     
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    @Reeko hope you enjoy watching EG the rest of the season. I'm excited for the free agency pitch to James. Rafael, Patrick, Tilman, and Eric Gordon all walk in to the meeting room.
     
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    Why would Utah do that?
     
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    Because they owe us for knocking us out of the playoffs so many times, dammit!
     
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  11. TEXNIFICENT

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    I would love it. JV coming home.
     
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  12. TimDuncanDonaut

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    :D Why not? They get Tate's spin-cycle.

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    https://theathletic.com/4107795/2023/01/20/nba-trade-deadline-big-board-predictions/

    Eric Gordon
    Were it not for Myles Turner, Gordon would be the runaway leader for continuous time on the proverbial trade block. With the Rockets rebuilding and Gordon in the last guaranteed year of his contract, now would seem to be the time. But having turned 34 in December and bedeviled by injuries for much of the past several years, not to mention having not played in a meaningful game since the 2020 bubble, does the veteran shooting guard have much left to offer a contender? Is he more likely to function as the expiring salary ballast for a team offering future draft assets to Houston to shed longer-term money? Or does the desired market for his services once again not fully materialize, leaving him to play out the string for the youthful Rockets? — Partnow
     
  14. heypartner

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    lulz,,,,I could have written that.

    ie, pretty useless trade-speculation info
     
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    Probably. LOL. Utah would laugh in your face. You’d have to throw in KJM and a couple of picks to get Vanderbilt included.
     
  16. Nook

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    Not this again.

    The Rockets are supposedly asking as much for Gordon as the Pistons are asking for Bogdanovich.

    The Rockets don't know what they are doing and it may not matter if they fall into Wemby or Henderson.
     
  17. theDude

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    Wemby would definitely bail out some ineptitude. But if we got him, along with the rest of these young guys, I think you’d have some pretty good coaches interview for this job.


    Of course, they would turn it down once they saw our practice facilities.
     
  18. RoyalGuard

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    The league is NOT gonna award us "Wemby" yall need to wtf up. We are a disaster from top to bottom. We will not get a #1 with a inept front office.
     
  19. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Conley makes 22 mil this year, 24 mil next. He's not overpaid but not exactly underpaid. He's 35yrs this year (older and more expensive than Eric Gordon). Will Utah poney up the money for an extension, probably... But a raise (and how much?) who knows. Conley looks good in Hardy's system, but so does Sexton and likely other guards they get. They have depth at the PG spot.

    Reason why Conley could fit better here is because our PGs stink and Silas is not good at developing, so we need more pre-made players. If Rockets pay $25 mil+ per for Conley is worth it for gap years, but still not cheap.

    Ainge likely can also flip Tate and Gordon better than Stone can.

    It's not as lopsided and out of possiblity as ppl think
     
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