DeSantis already penalize FL's business for mandating masks through executive orders. He now is proposing to make that permanent through legislation. He is also trying to ban medical boards from taking action against doctors for spreading misinformation. Clear overreach (and none of that deal with airplanes). And it is also dangerous to handicap private business's ability to react to future health crisis. As for mask mandates on airplanes - at the time of the ruling back in April, the DOJ said it will appeal, not necessary to reinstate it but to "wipe the ruling off the books". "The Department continues to believe that the order requiring masking in the transportation corridor is a valid exercise of the authority Congress has given CDC to protect the public health. That is an important authority the Department will continue to work to preserve," - DOJ. After not filing an emergency appeal and not fighting it for months (allowing the ruling to stand), this is, as they said back then, about preserving the CDC's ability to issue a mask mandate on transportation for a health emergency. They should absolutely appeal to retain that capability to manage future health emergencies.
You thinking a masking requirement doesn't make sense is not justification for imposing your view on others, including businesses, that might see it differently. In 2023, given what we know today, a private place of business should have the freedom to decide their masking policy according to their own understanding of the risks to safety involved. And if you don't agree with their policy, find another business. It's pretty simple.
"Misinformation" is code for "anything the Left doesn't like". Much of what has been called "misinformation" and was censored on social media at the behest of the Left did actually turn out to be true later. Mask mandates on airplanes were always unscientific theater. I get that the Left loves any kind of "mandates". Anything to restrict individuals' freedoms is always popular with the Left.
You leftists will always want restrictions on liberties of individuals. If you cannot get the government to do it, you will want businesses to do it. Fortunately, people like DeSantis see through this and fight against it. If someone has an actual medical vulnerability (few do) or some kind of anxiety disorder (more people have that now) and wants to wear a mask, they can. But mandating it is anti-freedom. You are flipping things on their head by saying I am imposing my view on others. It should be up to each individual to decide about their own health, not for government or (large) businesses to decide what individuals must do.
"The left" is a wide ocean of variable view points. The left also includes anarchists. You do know that right? You have a very basic misunderstanding of basic political ideology and yet you are so confident. A perfect reactionary. Mandates aren't something the left makes a number one priority. The left only cares when people like you use it as evidence of impending authorarianism because it doesn't make sense when we examine historical precedent. The left of you actually listen to their media bubbles like Coolzone media mainly concentrates on systemic economic issues. They will do things like discuss trans issues only to the level at which they fear the right is using people like trans people as scapegoats for soicety's impeding doom. If the right completely ignores trans content, you would see the left hardly ever discuss the issue.
And yet on this topic you are the one arguing in favor of restricting individual liberty. Because of "politics".
No, you either unintentionally or deliberately fail to understand. I am always in favour of individuals deciding for themselves. You leftists always want restrictions places on individual liberty. You don't really care whether these restrictions get enacted by the government or corporates, as long as individual freedom gets attacked. That's what makes you guys happy. When leftist governments have campaigned massively to create mass anxiety and then businesses/corporates enact freedom-curbing mandates (such as vaccination mandates or mask mandates or you lose your job/cannot access a service that will often be the only one available to you, so the "just choose a different business" argument doesn't even work), then it's time to fight against that, politically and legally. That's what DeSantis is doing. And it's hilarious that leftists of all people suddenly start fake defending the "freedom" of businesses. The only time you are in favour of that is when businesses act to restrict the freedom of individuals.
probably because leftists are no where near the only people that defend vaccination agency for private businesses? Maybe it's another sign you are extreme when everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist. In Leftists in reality are pretty meh about pandemic restrictions. What they are against is the right using it as a method to deflect from actual fascism rising. It's the Bidens, Schumers, Pelosis, Clintons (neo libs) that are the most vociferous when it comes to pandemic restrictions.
Let's focus a bit, instead of turning this into yet another rant about "leftists" and "sheep", ok? Like, that's every response from you, and it's tiresome. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? A private place of business should have the freedom to decide their masking policy according to their own understanding of the risks to safety involved. And if you don't agree with their policy, find another business. It's pretty simple. That is a non-leftist, libertarian position, that gives full deference to the liberty of the individual. If you disagree, please explain why.
@durvasa has a valid point. Telling an authoritarian they can't be an authoritarian makes you an authoritarian. Leftist logic. Dont question it, just accept it.
People should have freedom to create a business and set up safety protocols for employees or customers. Yes, even if you consider those safety protocols unreasonably strict or "authoritarian". @AroundTheWorld is focused on large businesses where "choose another business" is not an option, and trying to make his argument based on that. That's a fair point. It's a pretty "leftist" argument to make, actually. Conservatives/libertarians usually don't make that argument. But does this Florida law only apply to such businesses?
No, it doesn't give full deference to the liberty of the individual. Liberty of the individual means the individual can decide whether they mask or not. No government or business should make that decision for the individual. The whole notion that an individual is a danger to others just by breathing which must be curbed is an authoritarian's wet dream. Creating fear and taking away the individual's individuality by forcing them to cover their face is another authoritarian's wet dream. "Finding another business" will often not easily be possible.
The individual can't decide to go walk into a business barefoot if the business has a 'no shirt/no service' sign. Businesses can issue a jackets required dress code. It isn't an attack on individual freedom to do that. Just like the business decisions DeSantos government is taking from the businesses
Should an individual have the right to open a small business that caters to people who want an environment where everyone is wearing a mask?
