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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. astros123

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/cia...y-russian-plot-to-kill-before-invasion-2023-1

    I've already told you this to you numerous times. Biden and the CIA were begging zelensky to arm and prepare for the war and start a general mobilization. Zelensky own chief of staff called CNN war mongering propaganda. This delusional theory thst America didn't want to help ukraine is utter bs. Zelensky refused to share any army intel with biden regarding his units and equipment. This is *why* the cia thought ukraine would capitulate in a few days. They had no idea what their capacity was. The CIA director told biden we know more about the Russians than we do about the Ukrainians.

    When trump tried to extort zelensky it ruined zelensky entire image of America. He thought we were all in it for ourselves and it shaked his core beliefs of america. Read the former ambassador book about how trump changed zelensky. Putin got exactly what he wanted from trump even if it wasn't done by purpose.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/...dge-marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-ambassador.html

    Blame your buddy trump for effin up the world's image of us cuz he was a arrogant ahole.
     
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    This is better for the Ukraine thread but I fully credit Biden for the job he has done in Ukraine. This situation is a very complicated situation that could bad ways. Biden has been able to keep NATO united even though there are huge differences among the allies, kept Ukraine not just from being overrun by Russia but able to take the offensive on them, all while not committing US troops to the theater, and not leading a much wider war Europe or West Asia.
     
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    That's what I have been saying the entire time. Biden's team self reported. Had his team just STFU and shredded the documents no one would have known. I'm not saying they should have done this, but it is a fact.
     
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    When Biden Shoots Himself in the Foot

    https://www.allsides.com/blog/when-biden-shoots-himself-foot

    excerpt:

    An ongoing debate about the specifics of the two situations does Biden no favors: it overshadows his message about the economy, Ukraine and other topics that work to his benefit. Instead, the controversy traps him in an ongoing argument in which his strongest argument is that he was less irresponsible than Trump. More damaging than the distraction caused by the uproar is that it undermines the central premise of Biden’s presidency. In a country that is essentially divided ideologically and politically, Biden’s most important promise in the 2020 campaign was his intention of restoring “normalcy” to the White House and to the country.

    Voters who were fatigued, frustrated or embarrassed by Trump’s antics could be reassured that Biden would restore if not a missing dignity to the Oval Office, at the very least a more traditional level of maturity and competence.

    And that was Biden’s core argument: that he was competent, that he knew what he was doing, and that he had the necessary experience to avoid self-created catastrophe. The hard-core Trump voters didn’t care: they were excited by their hero’s combative and politically incorrect manner. But voters occupying the determinative space close to the center of the political spectrum ultimately turned to Biden less out of ideological conviction than a need for reliability and reassurance that adults would be in charge of the country again.
    more at the link
     
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    Nobody cares. Get over it. Trump and biden will decide the winner on the ballotbox in 2024

    His wife should've been one step ahead and done the search. Your wife gotta be your ride or die :cool: she should've shredded it :D



    Oh look his approval is going up even after the media hack job...
     
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    I miss Trump
     
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    He's never left and according to him he's still the President.
     
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    Biden shouldn't have said "I don't understand how anyone can be this careless with classified documents" which does look very bad in retrospect but "normalicy" isn't the same as 'perfection'. No President or really person is perfect and even the best will still make mistakes. As I've argued that doesn't mean we overlook this or completely downplay it but this doesn't make the Biden Presidency as the chaotic or bizarre as the Trump Presidency was. If anything this puts it more in the norm of most Presidents.
     
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    “People know I take classified documents and classified material seriously,” Biden said. He added, “My Corvette’s in a locked garage.”
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    Man these $20 omelettes are delicious
     
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    making carbonara tonight. all eggs, no cream.
     
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    That’s the kind of positive spirit and vibe I need in my president.
     
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    Thats peasant food.

    Love yourself.
     
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    guanciale ain't cheap.
     
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    That's a John Grisham novel.
     
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    seems unlikely, if Brittany had a camera ready.
     
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    WaPo had a story on this today, the store called her in specifically to take the call--they knew in advance Biden was going to be calling
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bi...ocrats-11674075731?mod=hp_opin_pos_2#cxrecs_s

    The Biden Classified-Document Payback
    Democrats stoked the Trump bonfire for years. Now it’s put them in political hell.
    By Daniel Henninger
    Jan. 18, 2023 6:13 pm ET

    You know that a country’s politics has become unhinged when its politicians forget one of the fundamentals of their profession: What goes around comes around.

    All that stuff about “my friend” and “the gentlelady” flows from knowing that if a politician overdoes the torment, his opponent will spend years waiting for the moment of payback. Exhibit Z is a sitting president saying about his predecessor: “How could anyone be that irresponsible?” Now comes the Democrats’ predictable crucible with everyone’s former good friend, Joe Biden.

    Democrats initially argued that the Biden and Trump classified-document details weren’t comparable. Um, so what? No one cares about comparable. With the Biden documents, absent facts, we’re into the comfort zone of American politics—rank speculation.

    So let’s speculate, a word that sounds like an activity that should be—and once was—done in private.

    The timeline of the Biden document tale begins on Nov. 2 when Biden aides are said to have discovered classified papers at the Penn Biden Center, and then turned them over to the National Archives. But it seems more likely the actual timeline began on or about Aug. 9, the day after the FBI raided former President Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago.

    Amid the get-Trump din, a light bulb must have gone off in a Biden aide’s head: What if the old man did the same thing? Actually, not “what if,” but when did Mr. Biden move his own cache of classified documents out of the Obama White House? They all do it.

    While it’s been said that moving boxes is below the pay grade of White House lawyers, they do mop-ups. They would have known they were the ones who had to go looking without making the president an informed party to their hunch. Maybe they could have let this sleeping dog lie, but legal liability for conversations thought to be private about theoretical crimes has become an expensive proposition in Washington.

    Why the FBI wasn’t called in immediately to take it from there to the Biden Delaware residence, Corvette garage and Rehoboth beach house is a question now disappearing into a murk of Justice Department rationales. But that and uncountable other questions will be asked by the chairmen of the Republicans’ House Payback Committees, Reps. Jim Jordanand James Comer.

    The Democrats are in hell days after their premature conclusion that the GOP’s House speaker drama had put them in heaven. Publicly Democrats like California Rep. John Garamendi call it an “embarrassment.” Privately, they have to wonder if the Biden garage will finally connect the president to Hunter’s global influence-peddling business.

    Democrats aren’t in hell merely because of the Mar-a-Lago comparable. Ring-fence these two document disputes and normally they’d fade from view as procedural smoke. The Democrats are in pain because of the four-year political bonfire they lit and stoked from 2016 through 2020.

    There were moments through and after the Trump term when some of us mused that the onslaught was over the top by any standard. Two impeachments? Now Joe Biden knows what it feels like to be media clickbait for all the wrong reasons.

    This is the permanent politics of retribution, and it can get worse. The investigations of two special counsels—Robert Hur for Mr. Biden and Jack Smith for Mr. Trump—will hang like two cement shoes waiting to drop across 2023 and perhaps into the 2024 presidential campaign. Potential candidates soon need to visit primary states to campaign and fundraise, but the frozen legal status of Messrs. Trump and Biden will hamper that process.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland’s decisions to appoint special counsels may sound like the responsible thing to do, but it was not. The special counsel is the unhappy stepchild of bad experiences with the so-called independent counsels who overwhelmed our politics in the 1980s and ’90s.

    The Clinton-Lewinsky independent counsel was the most famous, but there were many, many others through the Carter, Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Clinton presidencies. Merits aside, they became instruments of political destruction. Clinton Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt was investigated—and after 18 months cleared—by an independent counsel over statements to Congress about denying a license to an Indian casino.

    Normal prosecutors, to the extent anything limits their reach, operate inside the institutionalized realities of an established office. Nearly all the “independent” prosecutors had just one target and virtually unlimited funds to investigate. Most ended with no indictment after keeping their targets twisting in the wind for years. In 1999, Congress mercifully let the enabling statute expire.

    Appointing a single-target special counsel was a bad habit then and is becoming one again. Instead of a serious political country, the U.S. is turning into Argentina. Witness the theory that the Democrats themselves leaked Mr. Biden’s document vulnerabilities to get him out of the way. Some conspiracies are too Machiavellian to be true.

    What would King Solomon do? Herewith a way out of the Trump-Biden dilemma: a grand plea bargain. We the people pardon both Messrs. Trump and Biden (including Hunter). We will drop everything against you if in return all three of you will just go away.

    Appeared in the January 19, 2023, print edition as 'The Biden Document Payback'.



     
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