I'm talking about the Rockets sucking for ~200 games, not Sengun. Sengun has been pretty good, better than i expected and certainly one of the lone bright spots this year, even if he's still not solid in some areas. Sengun though is not good enough to have made an appreciable difference that the SOFs think, and certainly contributed his share to the negative side of the ledger these past 1.5 seasons. And as for the conspiracy allegations, just, stop, you idiots. Stop. Let me know if this is clear or if your cheeky bum self needs more clarification? Apologize i probably should have put the hyphen in a different place above, fwiw.
Hey brother, listen to the cut again. When Wall says: "We're trying to lose on purpose." That's a clear accusation that the organization is tanking on purpose. The NBA is anti-tanking for a lot of reasons. Here's a good legal article on all of the reasons why, prior solutions and a proposed solution which is basically a lawsuit against the team... https://ilr.law.uiowa.edu/print/vol...-nba-can-combat-its-tanking-problem-in-court/
Stone gets his orders from the Frittata family. "Dynasty"/"Shut up and listen" This crap starts at the very top.
The entire Rockets fanbase are acting weird today. Like we all knew Stone told Wall to sit so we could develop KPJ. And we had Justin Patton because Wood was injured. As far as the terrible habits, we've known this you can see it on the court. KPJ will quit and then get put right back in the game and then told he's "head honcho". Ive referred to them as "Lord of the flies" several times this season, why is everyone shocked over news we knew already?
Even though it was obvious, prior to Wall’s comments most of the above were still just fan speculation. Sucks to get the hard confirmation.
That's just Wall talking generally after the fact - he doesn't cite any concrete action other than "not playing John Wall." - like i said - playing John Wall made the Rockets the worst team in basketball. Not playing him is not sanctionable - it's not even news. It happened over a year ago. I can say with complete and total confidence that 2/3 of the league owners will never vote to sue another owner in court for not playing John Wall or tanking of any kind.
unless we got insider info, it was just speculations. This confirms it hence folks are behaving like how u normally would when u hear shockin news.
I get it, you're mad about Harden wanting out and demanding a trade, but everyone knew the team would go into rebuilding at that point. I don't think anyone was cool with the team willingly creating a losing culture. I don't know, I just think its odd to put the losing solely on the players and not the organization that is intentionally trying to lose. That's good for him. Unfortunately for him, lots of random rookies make these lists throughout the year. Rookie accolades mean nothing 5 years from now. He's still a shooting guard shooting under .300 from three and you are on something if you think swapping him out with ANY player makes us any better.
The org picked these crap players. Where you see malevolence, the most natural explanation is incompetence. Either way, jettisoning veterans like Harden and Wall in favor of draft picks is hardly even close to sanctionable if past precedent is any guide.
Honestly, I'm just shocked that the coach and players also know about it. I think everyone knew we were tanking but usually it is understood that the front office tanks but the coaches and players are out there to win games because they don't benefit from tanking. Silas would get more props for example for taking this team to the playoffs or having a better than advertised record and the players are tanking for players that will eventually replace them so they don't benefit from it either. Like KPJ gets replaced if we draft Scoot. I think its sad that the players know it too, that when we lose one of our most important players (A self admitted 'leader') is telling the press that it doesn't matter because its a rebuilding year and losses are just for learning and that quote was like within the first 10 games of the season lol, they already had thrown in the towel.
Lol the video isn’t as bad as the quotes I read earlier sounded These players almost seem to be defending KPJ & Green I feel like. Praising the players(over the past year or so) but really coming at the organization for how they have handled/develop them But I’d rather tank than have play Wall & let say Jarret Allen or something. Don’t blame the organization Wall blame Harden for leaving you We did tanking by the book and continue to do so And I’m pretty sure Stone didn’t want Wall around the players because he put the youngins in a unsafe situation and Stone asked him to be separate from the young kids
It's sad to see the franchise in this state. The more dirt that comes out, hopefully this will force Tillman to right this ship. This is embarrassing.
Tanking is never pretty and never outright spoken about so it is quite embarrassing for an org to b exposed by a player airing the org's dirty laundry. Harden may have given up on us but at least he was classy enough not to talk sht/expose the org dirty secrets and burn all bridges with the franchise.
We don't have to get into the Harden thing but he didn't want to be here, what else were they supposed to do? Hold on to him, watch him not show up to any games and do all he could to get traded and then lose him for nothing all while having to deal with the ramifications of the Westbrook trade? Trading Harden was the Rockets best shot at having any hope of a post Harden future. Look man, Harden had a great career here, no reason to be trashing every other player that puts on a Rocket uniform because they traded a player that didn't want to be here anymore. I get it that we're going to just think every Rocket drafted is a crap player, that Green, Bari, Sengun, none of these guys have any potential because we're still mad at the Harden trade but I'm not sure what else they were supposed to do? All they could do was get assets from him and that's what they've done and like I said. NO ONE was mad about any of those picks on draft night. Maybe Green, but again Mobley didn't want to be here so Green had to be the pick. No one was like draft Jaylen Williams 3rd overall over Jabari. And yeah, jettisoning vets is what tanking teams do, I'm not at all surprised by that. I'm just surprised that the coach's strategy on the court is being integrated into the tanking. EDIT: In the end, agree to disagree. I think when its revealed that the team is tanking so hard that its also part of their rotations that its hard to know how bad even a bad team is. I hope next season the organization will decide it's time to actually try winning games.
