Silas was an easy mark to control…a rookie HC with zero clout finally getting his shot after 16 years as an assistant
Tilman with the 200 iq. Got flack being too hands on, decides to find a gm that is hands on and no doubtly reports directly to tilman. To complete the Trifecta they hire a yes man in silas. Tilman controls the direction of the org behind stone, while avoid the ire of the fans who r undoubtly pissed at Silas. Tilman keeps his voice quiet about this process and no one is the Wiser
Wow.... Man. I can't even be mad. It's one thing to see everyone talk **** on clutchfans but really hearing it from John F. Wall and confirming things. That's crazy. Kiss the "Porter as 6th man" dream goodbye. I may even come away with an ounce of respect for coach Silas, it's crystal clear who's calling the shots. Honestly they probably owe him a shot at winning with next years pick/free agency moves. The talk about let him earn it, he was willing after Porter earned it but that was enough to tell him to vamanos? Yikes. They could've tanked but developed Porter instead they tanked and entitled him, boy if that doesn't show this year nothing does. Jalen right in tow behind him too. I thought the organization did a lot of repair to their image by trading more than a few veteran guys where they wanted to be. But not Gordon? Not even for a 1st last year? Does Gordon need CP3 to teach him how to have heart? Wall couldn't even remember him lol... Jesus.
You/John Wall give them too much credit. The Rockets are ****ing terrible and the players are ****ing terrible at basketball. I love when people talk about "bring back the starters" - the starters are bad at basketball, the very worst group in the NBA and have been for years. I honestly think they thought they'd be better off without high maintenance Wall around. Im starting to come around to the view that they were wrong, but then John Wall isn't exactly a model of maturity these days either; ultimately it comes down to drafting not good players and having crap around them.
We are tanking. Our young players also suck as a whole and are not developing properly. Sadly, both can be true at the same time.
Some of y'all are missing the point and focusing on how Wall felt about the situation. Really, as a Rockets fan, **** his feelings in regards to this. He was paid to basically work out and stay home. He may have been bored, but if boredom is the worst complaint he has during the day, then he's in a good spot. Now that aside, the things to take away from what he is saying are that: KPJ never had to earn his spot (which we knew) Young guys developing bad habits (which most of us know and acknowledge) Stone giving the orders on who to play and how often (Starting to come out here lately) These are the things that keep tanking/dysfunctional organizations bad for many years. The Rockets are a dysfunctional organization who are hoping for a top 2 pick to suddenly come in and save the franchise. If the Rockets end up with the 5th pick and get just a good player, we will see how many people still are onboard with the tank and are ok with players not being held accountable and having very little development. This whole regime needs to be let go sooner rather than later.
You have not been watching if you think players like Sengun are bad at basketball, but I'm sure you'd trade Jalen Williams for Sengun... You also wasn't watching that Clipper game from start to finish, I was camping that game thread you came in during the moment they played a garbage lineup intentionally too long so that the game would be out of reach. Everyone saw it, everyone picked up on it, because the game was close until that very moment...even Sengun picked up on it because apparently it frustrated him enough to show it to the coach. They are intentionally losing games and whats worse is the coach is in on it probably because he feels like he has to be and whats even worse is the players know about it as evidenced by Green's quote earlier this year about how they aren't even out there to win games. It's very easy to be 'bad' at basketball when you're playing Nix 37 minutes, a pg that can't even receive and in bounds pass and can't throw it.
No coach in the NBA has more power than the GM … it’s why Doc Rivers got bounced around the GM will always win Stan Van Gundy in NO … GM won The whole league know what Stone plan is, that’s why Silas isn’t getting no heat.. if had been a head coach before maybe he would put his foot down on certain things Stome wants but maybe Stone has already guaranteed him 1 year post tankathon
The concerning thing to me is that it really feels like the Rockets are a wounded animal who has just been thrown into the water, and the Pirahnas in the media are starting a feeding frenzy. At the end of the day, the only thing that is going to keep the rumor mill in check is access and opportunity. A player agent should be looking at the Rockets as a desperate franchise with tons of cap room next summer. They should be telling every one of their clients to keep their mouths shut, because Houston is going to be used as leverage over and over again to secure contracts for FAs next summer. Every top assistant should be licking their chops at either being able to interview for Silas's seat next year, or staying where they are at with a fat raise/title. The Christmas Harden return rumor is the perfect encapsulation of this; a way to secure a max with the Sixers, acknowledgement that he is irreplaceable on the current team, and raising the profile of Houston by implying that a star is willing to leave a contender to play with the developing core. And it was a major story for the league that drove eyeballs and clicks. A win all the way around. Now not even 30 days later, if you had the exact same rumor, it would feel completely unrealistic and have far less impact. Big agents should be killing a lot of these rumors, because it does them so much better to always have a realistic "mystery team" during negotiations. Journalists should be shading their criticism, because having a reliable source on a team with trade pieces and who will be picking high in the draft for several years to come should be important. And yet, you can feel everyone in the NBA community testing the water, slowly introducing more and more whispers and rumbling about things not being alright in Houston, of player discontent, and of a shaky front office. And every time that it goes unpunished, or generates new clicks, the next journalist is emboldened to be more specific and more biting with their criticism. It's only going to accelerate, as more and more people connected with the NBA decide that the Rockets have nothing to offer other than being the league's punching bag. There are few coaching archetypes I hate more than the old veteran screamer hard-ass who relies on effort and discipline over staying modern and creative on offense, someone whose name value far outweighs their tactical brilliance, and whose offense is a decade out of date. But from what I've seen of this team, that seems like exactly what they need for all the young guys. The Mark Jackson/Dwayne Casey who teaches the guys the base level of competency needed just to compete on a game to game basis, even if they're going to be completely outclassed during the playoffs.
I have been watching quite a bit and i can assure you that my conclusion that the Rockets are collectively and individually bad at basketball - including Alperen Sengun - notwithstanding whatever he did last night, for the last ~200 games is overwhelmingly supported by the visual and empirical evidence You're absolutely right, i threw in the towel over the weekend and did not choose to torture myself by watching these last 2 games other than for brief periods. That doesn't really have any bearing on the previous 198 or so games of garbage players ( including, on many of those nights, Alperen Sengun, who was voted "Most likely to Be Can't Play Kantered Out of a Playoff Series" by his draft class ) and who couldn't guard a pick and roll even if you gave him a barbed wire fence on the foul line But go ahead and explain how this team is... secretly good! If not for the conspiracy to intentionally lose games, the team with the worst record in the NBA for 3 years straight can become good - with a few simple tweaks! Ahahahaaha sure man. It's far more amusing than watching this **** team and their crappy players
I’m just laughing thinking about the press conference with Stone sitting next to Wall saying crap like “John is just a really good dude…”
This is where I'm at, so you got paid $40M to workout and stay home, cry me a river. We've discussed the bad habits and lack of development on this forum at nauseum. If Stone is telling Silas to start Nix and play him 30 minutes, now that's a firing offense on its own. I can't let Silas off the hook, but can understand if an individual decides the job is more important than standing up to your boss. I didn't learn that lesson and paid the price a few times. Priorities... I do think the league may start a formal inquiry, which could blow up in our faces. I really don't understand why TF/Stone didn't make Wall sign an NDA as part of his buyout, that wasn't very smart from a business perspective. What would suck is if we get penalized after dealing with this Sh_t Show for 3 years.
Wall said Stone and our front office are BEYOND TRASH. I don't think we'll be signing any big free agents here anytime soon.
I knew Raffy “the snake” Stone couldn’t hide his ways forever. Fertitta and Stone deserve each other. I’m sure Mobley is laughing somewhere. Wall throwing all the front office and coaching rats under the bus.
As u r ranting this stood out to me "Rockets are collectively and individually bad at basketball - including Alperen Sengun - notwithstanding whatever he did last night, for the last 200 games is overwhelmingly supported by the visual and empirical evidence" All it takes is a simple search to look up how many games sengun actually played. He played 112 games minus the 2 u didn't watch so 110. Not to mention that last season 34/70 games were less than 20 mins. Now with that being noted one can come to conclusion is A) u r exaggerating which makes u lose credibility regardless B) u r lying about how many games u actually watch to push your narrative C) u simply hate sengun playstyle hence the lies and exaggeration last 200 games is overwhelmingly supported by the visual and empirical evidence. Btch, man only played 112 games. No wonder u came to the conclusion that sengun sucks, he must have sucked in the other 88 games in your imaginary world.
We can ignore the glowing praise Sengun gets nearly every night from opposing players and coaches out of nowhere I guess...but hey, you'd trade him for Jalen Williams I am sure. But hey, I guess the youngest center to ever put up 30-10 is a garbage player now. You said it, not I. He's only played well in 2 games I guess.. Conspiracy? We have a former player literally saying the team intentionally throws game and that the coach goes along with it. Which means, they...surprise, look bad. When you put players out there like Nix then you of course will look bad. We literally had another player come out earlier this year and said they were not out there to win games. It's not a conspiracy at this point.
I don't get what the league would investigate - there's no rule that says you have to play John Wall and the Rockets started John Wall the prior year and they still had the worst record in the league. I think the Rockets are horrible to watch and their players suck but you guys and john wall are flattering yourselves if you think there's anything extraordinary or sanctionable that caused their level of bad.
