KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Correct. If he doesn't accept the real head honcho, he must be traded. I know you said it out of bitterness, but them's the facts.

 

Lol, no I said it out of laughing at you.

I'll let KPJ know that he must publicly announce that there is only one God and Sengun is his prophet or he'll need to be traded according to Sengun fans.

 

There's no doubt that players of that mold are effective, or that they help teams win more games. Sabonis is a great player and nobody is questioning that. The question is whether or not you can win a championship with them. Same as Charles Barkley doubting that jumpshooting teams can win, people will doubt this until it's done. Right now it hasn't been done so it's fair to question it and be skeptical.

 

Of course you can - but it depends upon the rest of the roster, like what happens when they double Sabonis do you have players that can generate shots on their own ala KPJ so that you can contrast that defense and still be effective.

DD

 

You can think whatever you want, I just said until it's been done people are going to doubt it. Nobody has ever won a championship that way.

 

What is the kings path to a title building around Sabonis? I personally would have zero interest in giving him a max deal and building around him, because building around a center who sucks on defense and winning a title seems to be impossible logically.

 

I am confused, are we asking if we can win a championship with a big being an offensive hub with an inside-out system or something else? If the former, we already did it with Dream and later the Magic almost did it with Dwight. You can make an argument that Lakers did it with Shaq for his first ring.

 

What do you mean? Hakeem was like that, inside out.....here in Houston....

DD

 

Sorry I thought it was made clear already but it's about having your best player being a poor defender at the center position. Hakeem literally has the DPOY award named after him so I don't think he qualifies. Dwight won 3 in a row. Shaq was one of the most imposing paint defenders in the league at the time. Sabonis, Jokic, and now Alp would be the best current prototypes.

 

Got it. That ultimately depends on the teams defensive schemes to counter the PnR which isn’t even exclusive to the C. A good PnR team will hunt for the weakest defensive link regardless of position.

 

They don’t get it lol. Seriously, those guys get exposed so bad in the playoffs. You can’t play good playoff D if your 5 is a liability

 

In fairness, Sengun is only a liability in certain matchups. Also, every player on the court would look better defensively if the worst defensive player on the team wasn't playing over 34 minutes a game.

Having to constantly try to cover for someone that awful creates easy shots for opposing teams dragging the entire defense down.

 

I think it's the defense people are questioning. Dream, Dwight, and Shaq were known to be defensive anchors. Sabonis and Sengun are not.

That said, Shaq would probably not fair well defensively in today's NBA.

edit: Just saw @harold bingo 's reply to you. Agreed with him.

 

It’ll be pretty much every team in the playoffs. This is why his offense has to be elite, that way he could offset that some. Looking good so far, he’s made a big leap this year

 

Ah well, yeah, let me think not sure....you can always slide him to 4 and put in an elite rim protector or vice-versa.

DD

 

I think the whole defense talk is too premature. He is 20, let's see where he is at both offensively and defensively a year from now, preferably under better coaching. And enjoy the ride for now.

 

I think one of the things that was a wrong with the Pacers was that Turner wanted to be featured offensively and seemed perpetually disgruntled. If you took a strictly predominately defensive-minded big like Capela and had him to fill in the defensive voids of a Sengun or Sabonis, you could have success.

 

That is kinda my point there is no one way fits all in winning it is all about team chemistry and fit.

DD

 

His offense being elite isn't enough. The reason Jokic might be able to succeed is because he's literally the greatest offensive player ever, or at worst top 2-3. Jokic is also bigger then sengun/sabonis so he's got a better chance on defense then the other 2.

 

Then you have a crap defender at the 4 and most likely 2 non shooters out there. Is it possible that someone like Wemby could cover up ALL of that? I suppose, but there's no current players in the league that could