[Official] Astros Off Season

Was Click the director of scouting?

I always thought the roles were somewhat muddled in Tampa… sorta like the Texans (with nowhere close to the disaster).

 

Click spent money on trash. Odorizzi and Baez. He found some gems with trades like Montero(our pitching coaches were very high on him and wanted him badly), but his free agent signings were trash. I think Nook also implied that he was against resigning Guriell, Brantley, and Verlander. If that is true, Click was horrible.

 

Absolutely horrible. Can never win a World Series with him as a GM for 3 years.

 

That’s exactly how I see it playing out if Click was still here.

 

I mean- it’s pretty easy to win and win big when Luhnow left you like 10 all star type players either in the bigs or in the organization heading into 2020
Springer, Correa, JV, LMJ, Presley, Framber, Javier, Tucker, Yordan and likely soon to be Peña and Hunter Brown.

 

Baez far far far from trash. We just had the ultimate bad luck that he was injured for those 2 years. But he was a quality relief pitcher.

 

I could been a GM and we would have won. All the players except for 3 relievers were Luhnow guys.

 

His velocity was on a downward trend before he came here. Click was betting on a rebound and lost.

 

That was a poor move, but more than offset by his successes like Raley, for instance.

 

It was a poor result but a solid gamble and very little consequence. I have no issue with the Baez signing.

It's like complaining about Dobon- he was never going to be better than the 5th or 6th reliever. Very little impact regardless.

And for the record I am not in the camp who gives Luhnow 100% credit for guys like Meyers. Hensley, and Hunter Brown. He gets 67-75% credit for them. Neither were MLB prospects until after they developed under Click.

 

Given how easy it was, its weird how they didn't win in Lunhow's last 2 years here or Click's first two.

 

Cmon man- there wasn’t even a minor league season to develop with in 20 bc of Covid. That’s not a system that Click rebuilt or anything, this was JL’s machine. Development. Talent. Philosophy. Players already stars at the major league level. Click didn’t **** it up. Congrats to that there are ego maniacs that might have. But this team was like 95% JL and Crane- who made the decisions and deals on Yuli and JV coming back. Baez was a stupid gamble and he spent enough money on dumb or unnecessary **** that it would pay for a year of a really good player but that’s not his Crane sees it I guess. It’s all total dollars to him.

 

I understand what you are saying and I agree mostly but Click was the GM I. His 3rd season when the team won. Giving him no credit is BS

Guys like Hensley and Meyers were non prospects that were organizational depth and in danger of being released outright lime thousands if minor leaguers who never make it after 4-5 years.

They were not even rated or projected to ever make the majors much less contribute to a world series.

Luhnow's team scouted chose and signed them but Click's team stuck with them and AT LEAST completed their development. I think giving Click 25% credit for then is fair.

Luhnow also should not get 100% credit for Brantley, Verlander, and McCullers who were resigned by Click ( huge assist to Crane lol)

 

Click did not want to re-sign JV.

 

That's all well and good but how can anyone give Luhnow credit for him being on the team?

 

He brought him over and built the machine that was humming along that JV wanted to continue to be a part of. That deserves some credit. Be wouldn’t have been an Astro if all that wouldn’t have happened, obviously.

 

But THIS OFFSEASON Verlander proved exactly how meaningful that is to him and how much that goes into him deciding where to pitch.

 

2 pennants is winning.

 

Not shocked at the Rosenthal list on GM candidates. Dana Brown is the guy a month ago I posted that Crane had spoken to and was someone the Astros really wanted to interview.

Brown is an excellent candidate and chiefly responsible for the Braves US draft and he is the architect to their minor league coaching staff and philosophy.

The Astros had to talk Brown into having interest. I was told that Brown is very demanding and doesn’t take **** from anyone. Has the reputation of being a very combative person at times. How he gets along with Crane will be huge.

Hill is well thought of and a lot of baseball people believe he didn’t have more success because of his owner with the Marlins. He has been viewed as very bright. He also was know as fair but high strung.

Bobby Evans is someone I didn’t hear anything about. I remember his term as GM with the Giants and it was okay but not great.

As far as other names I have heard? Dan Evans is someone they have spoken with.