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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. astros123

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    You forgot to mention how the head of German intelligence was in ukraine during first week of invasion!!! The Germans and French sincerely thought Russia wouldn't invade !! It's sad that the majority of the world has no idea about any of this. They think somehow America left ukraine to Russia when in reality it was the polar opposite. Zelensky utterly failed his nation for preparing and sided with Russia who had paid folks in his administration. Zelensky has done an amazing job post invasion and it's in the best interest of America to support ukraine but let's not white wash the truth.

    Zelesnky failed to prepare for the war and its not our responsibility to give them long range missles when corruption still runs high in their ranks. Again I fully support ukraine and we have to keep supporting them but giving them long range missles when they've lied to us numerous times isn't optimal.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    We should support the Ukraine as much as possible until Putin is taken out or is relieved of power in Russia.

    DD
     
  3. basso

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    they could have done that in February.
     
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  6. No Worries

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    Unfortunately in February 2022 the odds were that Ukraine would fall quickly. Maybe six months ago, the US might took the gamble.

    It is still not clear how this war ends. Putin is looking to send every last man to the Ukrainian front and use all of its military assets. Even if the Russian Army is run out of Ukraine, does Putin concede? or does he just try again in 5 years?

    If the war only ends when Moscow falls, will Ukraine take the war deep into Russia if they can?
     
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    Not sure how I feel about that.


    This should be done by proxy, in some European country, even if still by covert US soldiers.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Defense_Artillery_School

    Thats where the US Air Defense Artillery School is, where the US Army trains everybody who learns how shoot down balistic missiles. It requires basically a huge open missile test range for practice targets and is very specialized.

    It would probably cost orders of magnitude more to set up a new school with new equipment for a one-off training class, as opposed to using existing infrastructure and training systems.
     
  9. basso

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    what gamble?
     
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    I can get behind that for sure, but it gives Putin more ammo to rally the troops and escalate the war, no?
     
  12. No Worries

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    If Russia does overrun Ukraine, the Russians will capture the Patriot Missiles ... which might be the least of our worries at that point.
     
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    great way to get a lot of Ukrainians killed. Hey this is not a video game
     
  14. astros123

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    How can you post this garbage after everything ive posted? Do you do any reading at all? How the hell could we have trained them when Zelenskyy chief of staff was literally calling biden a war monger.

    You folks live in an alternative universe
     
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    Nope. I have been to India and the worst parts of India are far worse than Mexico or Brazil.

    There aren't rotting corpses floating down the river in plain view in Mexico and Brazil. There are not babies and old people rotting in the street.

    India is the worst I have seen.
     
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    Putin looking rough.
     
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    hey how are ya hey how are ya hey how are ya hey how are ya hey how are ya
     
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    Huh? Why do you think that Ukrainians just want to roll over and give up their homeland to Russia?

    I find it very odd.
     
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    Better than India.... how are you?
     
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