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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. BMoney

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    This is not going to happen.
     
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  2. Marshall Bryant

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    The math is spelled out. "building upon this, 6M, 12M and 19.5 Million should be market for the arbitration years for a total of 37.5M plus FA years at $30M or 5-97.5M, 6-127.5M or 7-157.5M should be good enough with the performance and injury risks taken by the team."

    Excuse me. I thought you were talking to me for some reason. But I agree with you the suggestion was way over market. Many want to totally ignore arbitration discounts.
     
  3. Marshall Bryant

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    No one knows. All we can do is guess. Even the parties change their minds.
     
  4. awc713

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    Giles Kibbe (Astros general counsel) spoke to my sports law class in 2015…covered a lot of topics but also generally about the arbitration process, cited Jason Castro case, discussed how it’s a bit awkward…the team tried to prove and and explain why the player isn’t worth what they think they are, player tries to prove the contrary…I suppose it’s just business at the end of the day and they do it in reference to other players and the market generally. I’d be curious how much advanced stats plays a role now versus 10-15 years ago, I’m sure each side dives into that. I don’t think there’s a huge risk like Springer (his issues seemingly stemmed more re: service time manipulation than arbitration process), but I bet they prefer to avoid these when possible. Anyways I know this isn’t news and perhaps common sense but it was an interesting day in class.
     
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  5. The Beard

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    I know money is money

    But with a difference of half a million, why risk hard feelings with Javier, who was just a huge part of a championship team
     
  6. Snake Diggit

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    Thanks, Mr Crane.
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    Yes.

    I was actually valuing his arb years at 40 which means 5 additional years at $35M AAV.

    And considering he has not peaked yet, I think he will get AT LEAST $35M per season as a FA at 29 with the way contracts are escalating.
     
  8. Major

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    I'd be curious to see how the Astros try to argue they think Javier is worth less than Urquidy.
     
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  9. tallanvor

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    It affects future arbitration so half a million amounts to more later

     
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  10. rimrocker

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    Last year, the Dodgers won 5 games more than the Astros during the regular season. Nobody will ever remember that.
     
  11. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Apparently you remembered. Though, the Dodgers didn't win the World Series. My post specifically wanted a lot of regular season wins and winning the World Series.
     
  12. Major

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    You think if the Astros win the WS for the 3rd time in the last 7 years, make 5 out of 7 WS, and 7 out of 7 ALCSs, but only win 90 games in the regular season, people will question if they are the class of MLB?
     
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    I would try to move Tucker after the 24 season and see what haul we could get.
     
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  14. SKYGODZ187

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    I still think we need another bat. And a Reliever.
     
  15. Do WHAT?

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    Good for Trey. I hope he got a decent AAV. He was having a very solid season with the Orioles before the trade. His performance here may have tanked his value a bit even though he came out of it a World Series Champion.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Mancini is one of the greatest dudes in MLB. Smart guy too. Wish he could have done better while here.
     
  18. punkoholic

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    Him eating up Schwarber's hard hit grounder will be remembered forever.
     
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    I seen this one did alittle research and thought this might be a decent guy to try and add

    Oscar Colas OF White Sox
    for Barber, Whitley, Maton and Meyers.

    The White Sox have an over abundance of OFers and they wanna compete. Meyers gives them a back up plan to Luis Robert's who is a damn fine player but injurys to the rest might make him slide over alittle.

    Colas helps us asap. And with the Cubano connection he could turn some heads with this team.
     
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    Mancini's contract info from MLBTRADERUMORS.

    Also from Levine, Mancini will earn $14MM in guaranteed money over the two years of the deal, and another $7MM is available in bonus clauses related to plate appearances.

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
     

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