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This report was over a year ago. Has anything changed? Why should Stone be trusted?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Reeko, Jan 14, 2023.

  1. Reeko

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-weighing-future-of-head-coach-stephen-silas

    The Houston Rockets have lost 15 straight games since their Oct. 22 victory over the Oklahoma City Thunder. Even for a franchise clearly trying to rebuild, such a drought can erode morale and optimism among players and team staffers.

    Now, multiple sources with knowledge of the situation have indicated to B/R that Rockets brass are weighing the future of Stephen Silas, who may become the league's next coach to be terminated, following Luke Walton's exit in Sacramento last weekend.

    But unlike Walton, there were no playoff expectations for Houston. Instead, GM Rafael Stone's front office has directed the coaching staff to develop and feature Houston's younger prospects such as Kevin Porter Jr. and Jalen Green, sources said.


    Silas, though, was not hired to steer a rebuild. When Silas, Jeff Van Gundy and Rockets assistant John Lucas interviewed with former GM Daryl Morey for the position during the 2020 offseason, each were required to meet with James Harden and Russell Westbrook. Morey is now the president in Philadelphia. Harden and Westbrook, of course, are gone as well.

    After Morey stepped away from the organization, Stone was elevated and hired Silas while the franchise still intended to convince Harden to stay. The Rockets, for example, declined Minnesota's offer for PJ Tucker that would have brought back a first-round pick. But Harden only played eight games under Silas before he was traded to Brooklyn, and then Houston pivoted into rebuild mode.


    "They put him in a tough position," said one assistant general manager. "[Silas] is genuinely one of the nicest people in the NBA. He actually cares about people. To put him with a bunch of really young dudes who probably don't care about anything but their numbers and playing time, he's just not the right fit."

    When the Rockets and former All-Star point guard John Wall, acquired in exchange for Westbrook, agreed to sit the veteran towards the end of last season, and continued that arrangement this fall, it appeared clear that Houston once again set its sights on a trip to the lottery. While no Rocket staffer expected to start 1-16, there was little forecast that Silas' team would fare much better.

    "What was he supposed to do this year, exactly?" added a Western Conference executive.

    But Silas' coaching performance has been met with some critics around the league. Rival coaches characterize the Rockets offense as disorganized and undisciplined, with chronic turnover issues and poor shot selection. They boast the league's worst offensive efficiency and assist-to-turnover ratio.

    It's fair to blame their inexperienced roster. The Rockets are one of the youngest teams in the NBA this season. The team's return for Harden, which could have netted Ben Simmons and Matisse Thybulle from Morey's Sixers, did not leave the Rockets with a blue chip cornerstone. Houston rerouted Jarrett Allen, sources said, after deeming him and forward Christian Wood a suboptimal front court pairing.

    Silas has recently made greater efforts to be firmer with Houston's young core, quicker to yank players for shot selection, turnovers, and defensive breakdowns.

    By all accounts, Stone and Silas remain close, riding on team flights and evaluating game film together. But Stone is more hands-on than the typical NBA general manager.


    On one occasion, Stone walked onto the practice court to preach defensive philosophy, sources said, and is known to consult players on tactical improvements. If he were to make a change at head coach, it seems Stone would maintain a similar level of influence over the coaching staff and Rockets' rotation, an increasing trend around the NBA.

    Multiple sources suggested Lucas as the likely interim head coach in any event Silas is dismissed. Lucas, the longtime Houston assistant and player development lead, is known to hold a particularly strong connection with Stone, and even trains Stone's kids.

    Rockets staffers are not waiting for this shoe drop the same way Kings personnel anticipated Walton's dismissal in Sacramento. Still, the rumors circulating Houston have grown louder this week, where Silas has just one year remaining on his contract following this season.

    and we wonder why KPJ has so much free reign...

    this man really hired Silas while still trying to convince James Harden to stay...

    we have a novice GM meddling with practice, coaching decisions, and rotations out here acting like Phil Jackson in NY...
     
  2. Aruba77

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    I never read that article , and certainly don’t think the Bleacher Report’s cred is beyond reproach, but I really don’t like the sound of this. It may be that Stone is a lot more responsible for what’s going on, on the court, than I thought.

    I do worry he has some egomania going on.
     
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    we'll need a ruling from @napalm06 to see if this thread counts

     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Silas is still here next year despite what the local media talk show hosts and Rockets twitter are saying. Silas isn't perfect, but I'm curious about what he could do with a better quality roster. Stone did nothing to improve last year's 20-win team besides drafting Jabari, Eason, and TyTy so we all should've expected the poor record again this year. Hopefully Stone can bring in some vets by the trade deadline.
     
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    Stone’s goal is to hand a trophy to Tillman. If Stone is at practice talking to players, it’s obvious he is looking past Silas into the future. ie the players will be here after Silas is gone. Stone’s trust in Silas is limited. Stone doesn’t have anyone on this coaching staff that he likes long term because he would already be using said coach to do his bidding. Stone future is tied to the sinking ship. I am sure Stone is desperately trying to figure out what he has on his roster because the players are developing at different paces. It’s got to be hard if not impossible to evaluate from the shadows.

    Stone would be a fool not to be a practice and mixing with the players. The organization is historically bad it’s broken and Stone’s job is to fix it.
     
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    Burn them all.
     
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    It does cite an article, however the article is from Bleacher Report. I'm going to increase this to 63.9%. Mediocre effort.
     
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  8. Hank McDowell

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    The fact that this article could have been written and published yesterday is a problem. These guys are no better than they were then. That sucks. Tanking sucks.
     
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    I always thought all of this talk was silly. Measuring a coach by the record when the organizational goal is to lose seems pretty weird to me. Obviously had Silas had a chance to coach the Harden led Rockets team we had previously and we had these kind of results it wouldn't even be up for debate if he should be fired. But he's basically been coaching the McDonald's All- American team against actual NBA teams. It's not surprising that they're getting stomped.
     
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    I remember this. It was also around the time Theis was starting .
     
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    It's 2023 and KJP is still an NBA prospect (FYI).
     
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  12. Little Bit

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    I heard this recently on the radio that Stone is interrupting practices and film sessions. He is overstepping boundaries. It seems like Stone likes Silas because he’s a yes man. I don’t see Stone firing Silas or if he is fired,
    I don’t see him hiring a coach who will put his foot down and tell him “No, you won’t be interrupting my practices or my film sessions.”
     
  13. Aruba77

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    i hope this is not happening. If it is, Stone needs to go. There’s lots of things he could be doing to improve the team. He’s a freaking lawyer, he should focus on the front office. This explains a lot if this is true.
     
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    Even much worse than Jackson because at least he had credentials on his resume no matter how much his said Zen ideology was overrated, Jackson was very good at getting those to play their roles to a T
     
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    The head honcho past 14 games has solidified his so called best player Rockets status, Stone will make sure his reclamation project he traded for and those high lotto drafted picks work out come hell or high water, ego is a hell of a drug and mans biggest foe
     
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    Tanking is hard!
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  17. Hank McDowell

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    If Stone is doing what is rumored, then he is the problem. No decent coach would put up with that. Of course we don’t know if it’s even true. What is true is that this team sucks and isn’t showing much growth. And tanking still sucks.
     
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    @Nook @Plowman what have y’all heard about this through your sauces?
     
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    It is not a rumor but it could be exeggerated.

    We had tweets with Stone and Silas during practice sessions.

    Just too lazy to look for that.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    This organization has a history of not letting their coaches coach their team unfortunately.

    GMs should handle personnel decisions and coaches should coach and if this is true I'd think less of Stone as a GM.

    I actually don't have a problem with most of the moves he's made. The Theis thing was odd, not trading Ego another mistake, but he's done a great job with the draft and has the ability to draft useful players outside of the lottery which is extremely important for a GM.
     

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