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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    What I said was that I was concerned if he never improved he could be Corey Brewer 2.0....because they came into the league with a similar skillset, athleticism and quickness and basically nothing else, they were both streaky shooters but not good shooters.

    I wasn't "quiet" the 2nd half of the season when Jalen Green managed to go from a zero way player to a one way player, I was outspoken about how happy I was that it looked like he was turning the corner a bit.

    This season, he's still the worst defensive player in the league and even the strides he seemed to have made in the 2nd half of last season have gone away.

    Like I said, keep blind faith alive for as long as you can, but he's looking REALLY bad a year and a half into his career. Maybe he turns it all around and learns how to play basketball, but there's no reason to assume that'll happen.

    Also, I keep asking, how many years are you going to give him before he has to at least be a top 5 player on the Rockets?
     
  2. duluth111222

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    Nice accounting there. So his first 2 years means nothing only because he wasn’t on Rox and wasn’t playing PG.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, they pretty much mean nothing. He got dicked around for the first 2 years of his career, those 2 years were a setback, not an advantage.

    KPJ and Jalen Green have about the same NBA game experience and they are only a year and a half apart in age....yet for some reason it's okay for one to be absolutely terrible.
     
  4. DatRocketFan

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    Dont bother reasonin with a green hater.

    Green is not even done with his second year and u hear this nonsense from booby again. They are really hypocrites. Imagine ragging on green while praising kpj who has 2 more years of nba experience. Give green 2 more years and start btching then.

    Logic so far gone they keep thinking kpj and green are peer of the same draft class when one is a fking 4th year player vs green who is 2nd year.
     
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    Well using this blueprint, since Green got dicked around his rookie yr and was 3rd/4th option who they camped in the corner until last 20 or so games and missed about a month, we are going to dismiss that as a setback done by the team and his rookie year started this season

    If I Am about to complete my 4th season and my Tmate is about to complete his 2nd and we have almost the same games played and it wasn't due to injuries, then me being the 4th year player must have dug a hole for myself and got dicked around due to my incompetent behavior acting like a d******d

    The things people say to prop up one over the other has reached Wemby+Wilt combined wingspan level, supreme reaching
     
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  6. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, this is so incredibly delusional.

    Jalen Green took over 14 shots per game, the most on the team. They have always tried to push this scrub as a #1 option, he's just never been any good.
     
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    How much time did you give him? Two months? COREY BREWER!
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    You sound really dumb when you fail to understand what I said despite me spelling it out so many times. When I post a worst case scenario, it doesn't take any time to do so....just like it didn't take any time for people to post best case scenarios where he became a superstar.

    A year and a half in and he's a hell of a lot closer to a Corey Brewer with no defense than a superstar.

    I know, that goes over your head. A worst case scenario is not saying something is a guarantee. Think on that a while, maybe you'll figure it out.
     
  9. ApacheWarrior

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    Completely forgot Jason Williams won a championship



    Term used in baseball.....sometimes a person can put on too much
    relish for one hot dog. Sometimes less is more. K.i.S.S. rule.
     
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    COREY BREWER! LMFAO
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, well at least you embrace your own simple mindedness. Good for you kiddo.
     
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    You know his attempts increased post all star break, which prior to that he was nowhere near being featured as first option, the delusional is thinking he was while being camped in the corner before he went on that second half Corey Brewer surge

    So did you upgrade Green from Brewer to Lou Will status or is that a downgrade?
     
  13. astrosrule

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    But challenging for a playin means you’re at least in the high 30s in wins. How can you win even 35 games if the best player isn’t a top 75 guy. We still would have between the 20th and 30th best starters at each spot
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    A lot of other players would look better if the 3 worst performing players on the team weren't in the starting lineup. All of those open looks created for Jalen and Jabari would look a LOT better if they were given to Tari, KJ, or even Garuba....not to mention the offense would flow better with them on the court.
     
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    I don't know why people debate with Bobby. He's wrong about everything and has the IQ of a fire hydrant
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Brewer was a worst case scenario....although Corey Brewer was many times the defensive player Jalen Green is.

    Lou Williams would indeed be an upgrade.....but Jalen Green isn't anywhere near as good as Lou Williams as of now. That's really more of something for him to aspire to one day.
     
  17. DatRocketFan

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    Don't bother wasting time with booby. He's always waiting for Jalen green to stumble so he can bring up the Corey Brewer 2.0 nonsense again
     
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    Now that Tate is back .our best 5 may not have kpj in it either , but it's likely that it does

    A hot Matthew's or a Gordon who's actually trying may be better . We haven't seen half of Gordon this year , he's saving it for another situation.

    Tate
    Garrison
    Gordon
    Tari
    Garuba

    Play full court basketball . Garrison and Gordon launch 3's and garuba Tari and Tate scramble like maniacs to get boards and get back and defend . 5 seconds or less lmao

    Kpj and sengun likely upgrades in terms of talent and what they can bring skill wise , but none of them can play with the same reckless abandon.

    Kpj is a halfway decent pg for being 22 and surrounded by inexperienced teammates. But he does plod a bit . Some of it with good intentions and good outcome . (A good shot generated)

    If Tate makes layups that lineup will come in a blitz someone to a beating

    Edit. - if Smith can make 3's then you could play him at the 3 and maybe he'd be great there
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not very high on Tate, but he's looked good in limited minutes. I think his best role may be as the backup PG running the bench unit.

    I think in a perfect world, KPJ is at the 2 or 3....but it's not a perfect world because he happens to be the best ball handler on the team right now and that sort of forces him into the PG role.

    If they manage to land Henderson, I think it'll unlock KPJ to be a MUCH more efficient player as a secondary playmaker rather than a primary playmaker. It'll make it to where he can capitalize on his stellar catch and shoot 3 point shooting....something largely wasted with the current roster.

    With Smith, all he needs to do is start hitting his 3's and he deserves his starting spot. He's already good enough defensively to where he doesn't need to do much offensively to be fine.....but right now, he's trash offensively.

    Honestly though, I just want them to have to earn their playing time.
     
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    KPJ has his EFG up to 51% and TS at 55%. Season and career highs

    League averages this year are an ever-increasing 54% EFG and 57% TS, so Kevin is still an inefficient player (and as lead ball handler has a terrible A/TO ratio) but he's at least within striking distance to average efficiency.

    Green/Smith have even worse efficiency, and Sengun/Martin is above average effeciency.
     
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