KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

For players who are not the core of your rebuild maybe so, but not for your high drafted SG who you are trying to develop, Smith/Sengun/Green should all be getting at least 4 shots per quarter because that is who Stone selected for his rebuild program

This is very simple bball thinking, and then at the end of their rookie deals you either extend or cut bait

And if you are going by team record since its a team sport then the worst or best player on the worst team is nothing to brag about

Its like you are choosing from a starting 5 team of the 3 stooges/beavis n butthead, picking one over the others and bragging about how you manage to come away with the best dummy

Dumb sharpens dumb, which I guess the leader would be Curly or possibly Butthead, you tell me

I feel like your park ball game was akin to just being out there trying to play physical using your football background and grabbing an occasional rebound

Just out there running around and hoping you get spoon fed a layup so you can say well at least I made my one shot, your TS% was off the chain I would imagine

 

He's not a super smart dude.

 

Well he is a lawyer.....so he had to pass the LSAT....lol.

DD

 

Well Im not gonna get into this convo about what is smart and what isnt. Let me change what I said and say that I find a lot his basketball takes awful.

He's a very narrative driven poster tbh.

 

it has yet to be determined if Green or Smith become "core" players, that's something they have yet to earn.

You certainly hope when you burn top 3 picks on players that they'll deserve to be part of your core going forward, but it's never a given.... especially when they come into the league looking as bad as Green and Smith have thus far.

If both of those guys don't improve A LOT, they'll be role players. Smith could easily become a taller Trevor Ariza, Green could become a taller, less efficient Lou Williams with less defense.

Nothing is certain for them. IMO that's what gets lost when people only focus on the ceiling of players while ignoring what they are now.

 

Bobby is still embarrassing himself because he's obsessed with Green.

 

Sillier for people to ignore their ceiling while only focus on what they are now, especially considering their age and # of years in the league.

 

They are in the basic sense of what the Rockets did by wiping the slate clean and from it they choose back to back top 3 picks including trading a couple first rounders to get the other core piece

What they are now is young talent going thru the walking phase of what it takes to be at this level and each has shown flashes of what they could become

A comparison is just that, rather you look at it from high or low end outcome, nothing is ever a given, but having the ability is a good, and all 3 of the core pieces have that

Core pieces are how the front office deems them, like the Knicks view Barrett as a core piece and overpaid him in their bias free choice, which Barrett is basically a souped up Ariza, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder

And right now today the core 3 are Stone's most beautiful drafted organic baby picks, and will be treated as such with him at the helm, for better or worse, TBD

 

Yes, that is true.....of most of us.

DD

 

but if green/smith turn out to be role players or busts, then the team has no future. The only chance for the rockets to become a good team is green and jabari really developing. They should be the 2 guys that are featured the most, no matter how much they suck now. You have to develop stars, or keep drafting till you do

 

People with a platform shouldnt have Skip Bayless hot takes like he does.

 

There are a lot of very intelligent people who don’t know sh*t when it comes to sports. Another horrible take by DD, but he also thinks KPJ has a high bball IQ.

 

I disagree, by all means, buy yourself a lottery ticket and dare to dream every now and again, but you are MUCH better off staying grounded by reality the vast majority of the time.

Also, how many years are you planning on ignoring what caliber of player they really are? Is there a time limit?

 

If they end up role players, it's a setback for sure, but it's not the end of the world. The Rockets are looking at another top 4 draft pick this year largely due to how absolutely terrible Jalen and Jabari are at basketball, so maybe 3rd time is the charm and they'll actually land a guy who is legitimately a star.

Also, already you ARE featuring them the most....it's the primary reason the team sucks so much. When you go out of your way to cater to scrubs like Green and Smith, no team has a chance.

 

For all I know, you guys gave KPJ 4 years and are still being hopeful.

 

you mean a 19 year old who should be a sophomore in college and a 20 year old who should be a junior in college shouldn't be judged as if they're finished right now? what a new phenomenon

dudes can't even drink yet, and you have old geezers being all salty with there usual embarrassing takes

 

I'm pretty sure it's only 127 games the Rockets have given KPJ....and he's miles ahead of Jalen Green after 108 games.

Again, how many years are we going to have to wait for Jalen Green to be even halfway decent at basketball? How many more before he magically becomes a star?

You try to throw shade at KPJ, but he's shown quite a bit. Jalen has just shown to be a chucker who isn't a competent ball handler who plays the worst defense in the league.....and that's the guy you think is going to turn it all around and become a superstar....because reasons.

I'm fine with keeping some hope alive, but maybe it's time to start dialing back expectations?

 

i mean the team would suck no matter what, we don't have a single above average starter on the team, let alone a star or superstar. I suppose you could play kpj and sengun 42 mpg and maybe be 12-29 instead of 10-31 or whatever but who cares, having the worst record is far more important. This draft is HUGE though for the future of the team, since nobody has shown they can be a #1 though i'm still a jalen believer

 

That's not necessarily true. The team would drastically improve just taking their 3 worst players out of the starting lineup. Sit Green, Smith, and dump EG and start Tari, KJ, and maybe Garuba while running the ball through KPJ and Sengun and the team is better on both sides of the ball. Hell you might even be challenging for a play in game with those changes alone.

Now, I will agree though that I would much rather we let Green and Smith be an anchor around the neck of the team so we can ensure another top 4 pick, but after this year, if they don't get A LOT better, we need to make them earn their playing time.

 

Like when you called Jalen Green a Corey Brewer v2 and then stayed quiet for the 2nd half of last season? Based on your track record of always getting things wrong, I like Jalen's chances of becoming a great player.