That's the only concern. But that is also the only reason we might (if at all) be able to get him for Gordon. I'd take the gamble. If he never gets back to healthy form, I'll just consider Gordon as a lost cause anyway.
Hawks' asking price for John Collins down to a quality player in return, not a first-round pick EGO+KJ for Collins I think this is a good buy low opportunity. Collins is having an awful year, but he will end up getting dealt somewhere and his game will most certainly improve. He just doesn't fit in Atlanta. They signed him and then sabotaged him. Because of the dearth of quality players available in free agency, I think you get ahead of the game and make this move now. Collins for the rest of the year will not miraculously turn the team around, so I don't see him hurting our draft position. Even with his contract, we would still have plenty of room to offer a max contract and add a complimentary piece. Our draft pick will almost certainly be Wemby or a PG. Then you finally have the makings of a bona fide team. Sometimes you just have to pounce on value and sort your team out later.
You'd have to play him at SF here or send him to the bench to be a sixth man. I'm all for the idea considering we are going nowhere anyways.
Ive always liked Collins’ game and agree he’s a good buy low candidate. It’s not clear to me that Atlanta would want add an aging shooting guard to their back court, but I’d imagine that KJ is attractive to several nba teams. Obviously there are questions about how that would impact Jabari, as I see Collins as the archetype 4 (like Jabari). But he’s still pretty young, and can definitely help us win. He needs to get better defensively, but he and Jabari may make a good pair. I wouldn’t give up too much for him, but I’d definitely give up EG and KJ. Great proposal!
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: +0.4 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +0.3 apg. Incoming Players Will Barton 32 year old, 6-5, 181 lb GF from Memphis 7.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.5 apg in 20.2 minutes in 2022-2023 Deni Avdija 22 year old, 6-9, 210 lb SG from Maccabi Tel Aviv U18 (Israel) 8.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.7 apg in 26.0 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Eric Gordon 34 year old, 6-3, 215 lb G from Indiana 11.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 29.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Daishen Nix 20 year old, 6-5, 224 lb GF from NBA G League Ignite 3.5 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.5 apg in 13.7 minutes in 2022-2023
I’d try Jabari out at SF, but it probably wouldn’t hurt for him to come off the bench. The ultimate goal would be for him to eventually supplant Collins. Hopefully they are both playing well and you’ve got a deep bench and/or tradeable players. They get a bit smaller, but I think Gordon and KJ both could help them this year in their playoff push. They get out of Collins’ contract and add a quality young player and a quality expiring contract that could be picked up for an extra year if he plays well enough for hem this year. It gives them quite a bit of flexibility.
4 team trade Gordon to Phoenix Danny Green, Suns 2023 FRP & Holiday or Culver to Rockets Crowder to Atlanta Shamet to Memphis Suns can still use saric to make another trade & we get two expiring and that FRP.
“The Houston Rockets also have guard Eric Gordon as a trade candidate but have set an asking price of a good young player or first-round pick for Gordon, league sources say.” https://theathletic.com/4098049/2023/01/17/nba-trade-deadline-poeltl-collins-vanvleet-shams/
Glad to see they’ve f Expanded it beyond a FRP, but what good young player that makes $20m will be available?
Gordon to NYC for Hartenstein, Cam Reddish, and filler. Hartenstein is a poor man's version of Sengun and would be a great backup. And we can kick the tires on Reddish.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -0.1 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +4.2 apg. Incoming Players Mike Conley 35 year old, 6-1, 175 lb PG from Ohio State 10.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 7.5 apg in 29.4 minutes in 2022-2023 Jarred Vanderbilt 23 year old, 6-8, 214 lb PF from Kentucky 8.6 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 2.8 apg in 24.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Eric Gordon 34 year old, 6-3, 215 lb G from Indiana 12.2 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.6 apg in 29.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Jae'sean Tate 27 year old, 6-4, 230 lb F from Ohio State 6.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 3.5 apg in 20.1 minutes in 2022-2023
I like the way this R=$ trade bot operates. No bickering or name calling, just proposal after proposal. I don’t know if it gets credit for a successful prediction, but if a trade goes down, odds are good the bot will have gotten it right somewhere in here.
I doubt it! Almost every trade it proposes is complete insanity. A few are just fringe insanity. Not sure I've seen a balances one yet
