Just buy him out and be done with it. EG is a sunk cost at this point. His minutes are more valuable than anything we’d get in return. Another mismanaged asset.
It’s saying the obvious and it’s been said numerous times, but so what? Stone should have dealt Eric at the deadline last year. The guy got greedy and stoned himself.
Hey if Milwaukee wants to do a 3-way with the Suns, where they get Crowder, the Suns get EG and Houston gets to push that Milwaukee 2023 pick to 2024, let’s do it!
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -32.8 ppg, -9.9 rpg, and -2.3 apg. Incoming Players Draymond Green 32 year old, 6-6, 234 lb F from Michigan State 7.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.7 apg in 31.4 minutes in 2022-2023 James Wiseman 21 year old, 7-0, 258 lb C from Memphis 6.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 12.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Eric Gordon 34 year old, 6-3, 215 lb G from Indiana 11.5 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.4 apg in 29.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Jae'sean Tate 27 year old, 6-4, 230 lb F from Ohio State 7.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 3.2 apg in 21.1 minutes in 2022-2023 Boban Marjanovic 34 year old, 7-4, 290 lb C from KK Vrsac Swisslion (Serbia) 2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.2 minutes in 2022-2023 Alperen Sengun 20 year old, 6-9, 235 lb C from Besiktas Icrypex (Turkey) 14.6 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 26.7 minutes in 2022-2023 K.J. Martin 22 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from IMG Academy (Florida) 10.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.9 minutes in 2022-2023
Gordon + Nix to the Lakers for Pat and Nunn. Doesn't matter if we play them (though I'd definitely play Pat to teach these kids how to be a dog on the perimeter) as they'll expire at the end of the season anyway.
https://theathletic.com/4085871/2023/01/13/eric-gordon-trade-rockets-deadline/ Let’s get this out of the way: Gordon, even at age 34, is still a talented NBA player, despite what the bad optics or Twitter discourse might yield. The Rockets’ point differential with Gordon on the floor has been in the 70th percentile or better in five out of the last six seasons in Houston, with the only non-positive one being the 2019-20 COVID-interrupted season. There’s a reason why head coach Stephen Silas holds Gordon in such high regard. Gordon isn’t the veteran to scream in your face or even call for a quick huddle — qualities his current set of young teammates might need — but things are generally better with him than without. That being said, Gordon isn’t excused when considering Houston’s poor performances. He’s averaging career lows in usage, shots and, as a result, points. He’s not defending at the high rate he once did. His body language hasn’t been great. When he’s spoken publicly, his frustrations are clear. All of that is rolled into a situation that could use a resolution sooner rather than later. So what do the Rockets really want for him? Is there a trade out there that works? What better place than Twitter to find the (potential) answers to your burning questions? Twitter Trade 1: The Big Apple? The Rockets have been holding out for a first-round pick for Gordon’s services, but this looks like the framework of something I think Houston would at least consider. They’d get a free look at a former top-10 pick in Cam Reddish who desperately needs a change of scenery, and get both point guard and veteran help with Derrick Rose. The latter would be 35 and on the books for $15 million at the beginning of the 2023-24 season, but Houston could always decline that option if they wanted. New York’s view: The Knicks have to consider exchanging two guys who are not currently playing for a vet who’s rediscovered his 3-point shot over the past two seasons. The Knicks could use a deep threat. If they don’t have to give up a pick or a rotation player to acquire one, props to them. — Fred Katz Twitter Trade 2: The Lakers don’t understand what DND means It feels like the Lakers have dangled this package just as frequently as the Rockets have done with Gordon. This doesn’t “wow” me, but expectations should be tempered for any Gordon trade. Patrick Beverley’s return to Houston would bring an immediate jolt to the locker room, and there’s no denying his experience would be welcome. His 2.49 assist-to-turnover ratio is considerably higher than Jalen Green’s or Kevin Porter Jr.’s, and his play style accommodates those types of scorers — not to mention his appetite for aggressive defense. The Lakers’ view: I think the Lakers would strongly consider this deal. They’re interested in any trade that doesn’t force them to give up one of their future first-round picks. Gordon isn’t the explosive scorer or deadeye shooter he once was, but he’s clearly an offense upgrade on Beverley and Kendrick Nunn. Defensively, his 6-foot-9 wingspan and 215-pound frame allow him to defend players larger than his 6-foot-3 height. This is the type of minor move that could upgrade the Lakers’ rotation and preserve their picks for use this summer. — Jovan Buha Twitter Trade 3: Won’t You Meet Me By the Bean Um. Ok! I’m not sure how much interest the Bulls have in someone like Gordon given his age, but they shouldn’t exactly be thumbing their nose at the prospect of more floor spacing. Chicago is four games under .500, in the middle of the pack offensively and in the bottom five in 3-point makes. There’s also not a lot of meat on the bone at the wing position, outside of DeMar DeRozan and Zach Lavine. If the Bulls aren’t dedicated to blowing it up next month and want to remain somewhat relevant, adding Gordon makes some sense. But I’d imagine they’d look at virtually any other route that didn’t involve them punting on Lonzo Ball, like some three-team framework. I know Ball’s luck with injuries is bad but I think the Rockets would do this deal. When Ball was healthy, the Bulls looked like a well-oiled machine. He’s a legit shooter and playmaker who can also defend. The Bulls’ view: No way the Bulls are ready to go there. This deal is the equivalent of the Bulls waving the proverbial white flag on the roster they aggressively assembled and then doubled down on by banking on continuity coming into this season. Parting with Ball now, while he’s on the slow road to recovery from knee surgery and after he’s appeared in only 35 games with the Bulls, would be as callous as it is uncommon. The Bulls effectively would be giving up on Ball solely because of injury concerns. If that’s the case, why would the Rockets want him? — Darnell Mayberry Twitter Trade 4: Maybe Eric Can Light the Beam? I guess the Kings’ primary objective here is getting rid of Richaun Holmes’ money and using a future first-round to incentivize the Rockets to take him on, but is Houston high enough on that return to risk cutting into their future cap? Maybe Sacramento uses Gordon’s previous ties to GM Monte McNair, who previously worked in Houston. There’s a world where Gordon comes in energized and bolsters their second unit alongside Malik Monk, but this looks like an awful lot to give up, especially when adding the future first-rounder. You could probably get a better return for a package like this. Don’t get me wrong: I still think there’s a player in Holmes. He flirted with being a 10-point, 10-rebound guy for three straight years and plays a bit like Clint Capela-lite when right. But the Rockets already having problems finding minutes for the three big men in the current rotation. Adding a 29-year-old center for half of a season doesn’t make much sense during a rebuild. A trade like this is better served for the offseason. The Kings view: That’s a lot for Sacramento to give up for a player that doesn’t firmly fit into exactly what they need. I like Gordon, but not the idea that he’s going to guard the 3 position, because they already have Kevin Huerter Monk, De’Aaron Fox and everybody else. I think it’s a good deal for the Rockets, I just don’t think it’s a deal the Kings are sufficiently motivated to do. — Danny Leroux
This deal gets my approval. I think Pat would definitely help KPJ regain the defensive intensity he had last year and just be a better player. The only tweaks I would make is getting that 2023 second rounder added to the deal and rerouting Nunn to NOLA for Garrett Temple. Temple is another guy who doesnt upset the tank for this year but could pay huge dividends moving forward mentoring the kids on how to be pros. The final piece, for me, would be figuring out a deal around Martin for Thaddeus Young (Raptors), Rudy Gay (Jazz) or Kyle Anderson (Wolves). I think adding a contingent of vets to those who are already old enough to drink on this team would go a long way to righting the ship for the youngins.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -10.5 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and -2.1 apg. Incoming Players John Collins 25 year old, 6-9, 235 lb PF from Wake Forest 13.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 31.2 minutes in 2022-2023 Vit Krejci 22 year old, 6-8, 195 lb PG from Zaragoza U18 (Spain) 1.5 ppg, 0.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 6.3 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Eric Gordon 34 year old, 6-3, 215 lb G from Indiana 11.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 29.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Boban Marjanovic 34 year old, 7-4, 290 lb C from KK Vrsac Swisslion (Serbia) 2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.2 minutes in 2022-2023 K.J. Martin 22 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from IMG Academy (Florida) 10.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.0 minutes in 2022-2023
kinda low-key love the idea of Lonzo Ball. Would be an amazing fit for the team with his defensive prowess. We'd probably need to add a 1st though and/or KJM
I wouldn't be opposed to the idea ..... but I cannot see the Bulls making him available at all much less for the paltry sum of Eric Gordon's contract, even if you added a pick. When that roster was healthy, they were playing really well.
no thanks. the rockets need to add a better player with some kind of experience of winning in this league. and adding additional assets for him would be an easy no for me. that would be wasting a 1st and even a valuable young role player in kjm
A lot of teams are monitoring Lonzo's injury. You can get him on a relatively cheap deal. If he gets healthy, he would be a perfect fit for this roster. Especially if we luck into Wemby or draft someone like Whitmore or Miller. Pass first, excellent in transition, elite defense, elite 3 point shooting. He can be a fourth or 5th option on offense, and still control the game. It's all a mute point if he can't stay healthy, but I've eyeballing Lonzo as that vet PG that we may need when we are ready to compete. No rush to do anything now.
ok, how about this one: Four team trade: - Rockets send EG to Suns. - Suns send Crowder and Saric to the Heat - Heat Send the Rockets a first round pick and Duncan Robinson ___________ - Rockets send that Heat first round pick, their Bucks pick, Tyty Washington, and Tate to the Grizz - Grizz send the Rockets Tyus Jones So, for the Rockets, we're sending out that Bucks pick, Gordon, Tate, Tyty, and are taking back Tyus Jones and Duncan Robinson. Sucks to eat Robinson's contract, and to lose Tate and Tyty, but Tyus Jones is exactly the sort of PG we need. A good defender, good shooter, AWESOME assist to turnover ratio. Guy would get us into the offense and set people up to succeed. And he is only 26. And, for the season, in the 7 games he has started he has averaged about 21 points and 8 assists per game, on a great team. He's worth overpaying for. In fact, I'd throw a Nets pick into this deal if I had to to get the deal done.
idk he's young enough that maybe he can focus on whatever imbalances are currently in his body. i'm an optimist when it comes to modern sports medicine.
