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What is Stone’s vision?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Jan 11, 2023.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

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    Why would you think that is the strategy?
     
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  2. Aruba77

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    well I think tanking is a big part of the strategy, but I don’t see us making trades or making sure our best prospects get the most development minutes…you know, progress on other parts of successfully rebuilding
     
  3. larsv8

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    I'm not sure I follow any of what you are saying.

    Tanking is a big part of the strategy. The idea that only the first or second pick is important seems completely made up.

    We have made plenty of trades???

    Our best prospects get plenty of minutes ????
     
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  4. Aruba77

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    we have basically sat out the last 2 trade deadlines. EG is getting more minutes then Sengun.
     
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  5. larsv8

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    What trades should we have made the last two deadlines???

    Sengun is getting plenty of minutes, and would get more if he didn't foul so much. Your complaint is that Sengun should player 3 additional minutes per game?
     
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    Your anti-Tilman avatar is a farse.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Are you suggesting I am actually pro Fertita?
     
  8. Aruba77

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    hey man it’s just my opinion that we haven’t maximized our levers on the rebuild. I have no idea what info the front office has. It’s fair to say fans don’t know what’s really happening. But I’m not happy with the growth of our young guys, and I’m not happy that we haven’t consolidated around our best prospects and made some trades. Definitely not happy with the coaching or the selfish basketball. Not happy we chose to start the rebuild with Wood Wall Oladipo and I guess KPJ. It’s not good enough.
     
  9. JW86

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    I get the tanking strategy, but not the way we're going about it. You can sign an Augustin to mentor KPJ & Green to make better decisions and develop quicker. You really think them being better is going to lead to that many more wins? Definitely not, since defensive instincts and awareness don't just happen in a few months. That takes years if you look at how bad they are. You don't have to basically say, let's **** up one more year, and then let's go. So again, what's the vision?
     
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    1. Hire Silas to tank and be a PE teacher.
    2. Land Jalen Green, Alperen Sengun, Tari Eason and Jabari Smith.
    3. Land Wemby/Scoot
    4. Hire new coach.
    5. All Nets picks for years…
     
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    Even by getting the 2nd and 3rd draft slot consecutively there was luck involved.
     
  14. MorningZippo

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    This is a great narrative, but it's full of assumptions that are just as false as the story your refuting.

    1) You can (and teams frequently do) tank without instilling bad habits. This is the hallmark difference between teams like the Spurs and teams like the Kings.

    2) Coaches are universally less strict on older players because they know more. Exactly the opposite of your claim

    3) You have no idea what changes they're aware of or not. The only evidence we have is the lack of deals to get returns on our unneeded assets (EG) which suggests that they lack trade expertise.

    Literally all of the evidence suggests that this front office is more like the kings, and less like the spurs. It's great you've convinced yourself otherwise, but it's simply not the truth.
     
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  15. larsv8

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    This is it.

    And if I read this bad habits narrative one more time, I am going rip my eye balls out.
     
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  16. glynch

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    Yeah, because it is proven and also self evident that if 19-21 yr old has some bad habits bb or otherwise they can never be corrected???
    Doesn't make sense in the life of me and my friends and acquaintances.
     
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    1) This is absolutely unquestionably false. The Spurs are the most commonly cited team for doing this. They remain a mess after 2-3 years of Popovic coaching these youngsters. Their defense is worse than ours and their offense is almost as bad as ours. They share the ball more than us, that's all. The moment KPJ got injured or even Tyty ran the offense, we shared the ball as much as them. Dejounte Murray, Bryn Forbes and Derrick White have atrocious habits after allegedly being coached to play well. I can understand why people would expect or assume it, but it is not true at all.

    2) I have no idea what your point #2 is referring to.

    3) You and I have no factual idea about what's going on. However, you would have to be a moron to think Stephen Silas, Rafael Stone, Mahmoud Abdel Fattah, Lionel Hollins, Mike Batiste and John Lucas don't know those things. It's not a reasonable assumption.

    You are of course wrong about the Kings vs Spurs comparison because for that to be true, you have to know how the players pan out more than 0-2 years after they were drafted at age 19 lol. If in 2 years we can't make the playoffs, then we would be like the Kings. The product looking bad 1-2 years after drafting 7 players and then playing youngsters more minutes than every rebuilding team in the NBA is not evidence that things are going wrong.
     
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  18. DaDakota

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    His vision is simple.

    Tank until you get a STAR player.

    So far, he still doesn't have one....so keep on keeping on.

    DD
     
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    You defend this garbage rebuild at every turn, seems like you are enjoying the Fertitta era.
     

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