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University Instructor Fired for Showing Islamic Art

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Jan 8, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    It's unclear what specific discriminatory actions were taken by the teacher. I've seen some people actually argue that criticism of Israel's actions against Palestinians in their conflict is itself an attack against Jewish people. Given 20% of the students in the class joined in on that complaint, I suppose there's more to it than merely that, but would like more details.

    That said, Jewish students should be able to deal with others criticizing Israeli treatment of Palestinians without feeling it is an attack on all Jewish people, and Muslim students should be able to deal with others criticizing or flouting Islamic doctrine regarding depictions of Muhammed without feeling it is an attack on all Muslim people.
     
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    Agree. But I also would be a little concerned for a professor to be so heavy handed in their opinion on a geopolitical manner. Hypothetically if I was a professor who's curriculum touches geopolitical subjects even if I have bias, I ethically should be nothing more than an arbiter of objective information and providing a environment and structure for students to debate the topic amongst themselves.

    Like it's one of the few things i agre OS trig on. Teachers shouldn't be so heavy handed in their personal opinions INSIDE the classroom. They can only hope students can arrive at these options by providing objective information and providing a productive structured environment to discuss with peers.
     
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    Read this article:

    https://freebeacon.com/campus/jewis...itism-the-university-retaliated-against-them/
     
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    So it was a "required diversity course" that forced students to forefront their own ethnic/racial background. That's the first problem, IMO.

    I feel like this is not an uncommon story. White students are forced into some sort of diversity training thing where they are made to feel like they are under attack. The instructor feels somehow justified in doing this, because they feel they are somehow advocating for the poor and disenfranchised. This story is specifically about white Jewish students and the topic of Israel/Palestine, but it's the same sort of thing.
     
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    But if you read the whole article, you see that the aggression by this professor against the Israeli/Jewish students went way beyond that, and you can also see her obvious aggressive bias against them.
     
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    Both sides accusing the other of being racist and the acrimony continues to build up over time with accusations going in both directions. Not a good situation for a classroom. The difference in the lengths the MN instructor took to be sensitive to Muslim students in her classroom versus the steps this teacher took to be sensitive to Jewish students in her classroom (apparently none) is striking.
     
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    And yet, the history teacher got fired and the aggressive anti-semitic professor gets backed by her university.
     
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    I wish there is a better source than the Washington Free Beacon. Close to extreme right bias and with factually mixed content (due to misleading and false claims).
     
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    He's not equating that. He's imagining someone equating that. Yes, religious-based intolerance could reach that.
     
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    boh arabs and jews are semitic peoples. calling out israel isn't anti-semitism.
     
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    I’m not arguing anything bigger picture but an adjunct is contracted and paid per class. She cannot be fired unless they booted her mid-term. Universities don’t bring back adjuncts every semester because there are always new ones they can abuse waiting in the wings.
     
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    she was simply not rehired for the following term
     
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    True. But they did give a pretty shitty reason for why they aren’t willing to rehire her, and now she is a new public face for Western disrespect to Islam. A very unfortunate position to be in.
     
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    You are both technically correct, but it's the reasoning given behind not re-hiring her that is the problem.
     
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    Yes that is an important point and adjuncts are easy to replace. As @durvasa noted though it is the reasons given for not renewing her contract.

    Just to stress again Hamline is within their rights to do this and they could not renew for any number of reasons. These reasons though do seem problematic when given Hamline's mission of education and academic integrity.
     
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    The teacher didn't get fired.
     
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    Muslims are divided on this issue. Some Muslim orgs are condemning not renewing her contract and some are praising the university.


    But one thing that is dangerous that Muslims supporting the university don't understand is that the right wing media infrastructure has an easy in to recruit this teacher to their cause and help spread their propaganda because they will now rush to her aid and give her press time. Some people will fall for it and then become right wing mouth pieces. I hope this teacher can stay away from that. I hope she knows that most people disagree with the university's decision even the so called "wokeists".
     

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